To new players: You need some defensive layers.

[Brown_Town86]

Do not choose a glass cannon build, even in SC. It used to be quite viable but at this stage of the game, you need at least some defensive layers to even walk around in maps. If you're checking out a build and it doesn't even mention defense, stay far FAR away from it.

Defensive layers are very important in the late game and without them you will have a terrible time. I'm enjoying the league but made the mistake of using a glass canon league starter that I've used several times in the past and the second I got to maps I started getting one-shot off screen.

It's my fault for not deep-diving into the patch notes so don't make the same mistake I did. You're going to have to actually put some thought into any build this league or choose one that's been created by someone who has.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

You'll get one-shot even with defense. One-shot is all this game knows how to do.

[Deejudanne]

Originally posted by pandariuskairos:

You'll get one-shot even with defense. One-shot is all this game knows how to do.

theres no middle ground it's either, enemies tickling you to you getting one shotted

[CortVermin]

"go build defensive layers"
did you even play the game? no matter how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tanky you are, almost every boss has at least one one-hit kill.

[Drake]

Originally posted by CortVermin:

"go build defensive layers"
did you even play the game? no matter how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tanky you are, almost every boss has at least one one-hit kill.

That's called a pattern, this is why we have movement skills. That's part of your defence too.

[Deejudanne]

Originally posted by CortVermin:

"go build defensive layers"
did you even play the game? no matter how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tanky you are, almost every boss has at least one one-hit kill.

i can introduce you to a immortal character i have, it's completely zdps but you wont die, you're basically afking bosses to death, 26k es herald of agony guardian

[blc]

lvl 98 here with 8k hp, 20k armor 77% res cap, 75% block cap, 7 endurance charges, wind dancer, fortitude. Sure I'm tanky 99% of the time, but one yellow mob with the wrong stats and I die from his sneeze.

The game is all about knowing what might kill you and avoid doing that content. Unless you just leveled up, super boring.

[Zukabazuka]

The problem really is not knowing what will one shot you and what will. Since there are so many enemies with so many abilities that later on that same ability could just wipe you. Or when you have those rouge exiles showing up or syndicate. The mobs on the map wouldn't really pose that much of a problem but those guys are more buffed up. Which most likely would get most newer player.

[ignis]

Bad advice. The best defence is offence. You'll be one-shot anyway. Just kill mobs before they kill you.

[davidb11]

I Wish people would stop exaggerating the one shot issues in this game.
They only ever apply very late game mapping, and the perfect storm of events that is needed is not exactly an easy task. I mean, Sirius possessed rare mobs do more damage than Sirius, but still. :P They also keep nerfing the damage those things do every single league.

Not to mention all end game map bosses that have extremely powerful attacks, someone post the Sirius fight stats please, have many many telegraphs that you can make sure to get out of the way in time.

You're never going to get one shot while playing the game normally. Unless you forget to even have resistances and your build is literally a dumpster fire and you have like 900 health in act 5. :P

The only exception is Innocence's fun exciting full screen barrage of balls that only show up when the guarding statue thing is no where close to you to get behind it. :P No, really, there are two different attacks he uses. One normally, and one at very low life. Guess which one he loves to do when there's no way to get behind the statue? :P
Also, they don't even one shot you. THey just do a lot of large damaging hits pretty quickly.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Originally posted by davidb11:

I Wish people would stop exaggerating the one shot issues in this game.

It's not an exaggeration, the issue starts at the very beginning of the game.

[davidb11]

We're not doing this again. Sigh.
This isn't the right thread for it.

[Rockerboy]

As a new player, I find really dangerous/deadly situations when:

1. all at once a pack of mobs throw super fast projectiles (not sure what type of damage they deal, chaos? poison?).

2. the kamikaze pack. Suddenly packs of mobs jumps from somewhere and explode on you, hence one-shotting me.

3. the crazy yellow elite. Teleport on you and one shot me. I wish there was some sort of "death log" where a player can at least see what happened.

Apart from these, I learnt to really take my time when I map (I'm currently doing only T5 maps) and approach mobs from far away, if possible. I agree, so far, with building different defensive layers, I think ultimately they give more chance of survivability on mapping.

[davidb11]

Huh? Kamikaze mobs don't do that much damage. At least they shouldn't.
Maybe map versions do a lot, but they don't jump at all.

The only yellow mob that teleports is shadow walker rares, and yes, they can be annoying to deal with.

How much health and what not do you have?

The first one sounds like the standard vaal construct. They do 50% phys and 50% Chaos.
THey're very neutered for the most part.

[Rockerboy]

Thank you for the feedback, I have about 3.5k health, lvl 83 Witch occultist, and I am using a Divine Ire build. Most of the time they one shot me while I am channelling Divine Ire.
I have -60% chaos resistance so that probably explains why some attacks hurt me so much.
Thanks again!

[Centurion]

Dont listen to the guy who say you need "dEfEnSiVe LaYeRs", because you can add as many you want and you still get one shot. Its implemented in the game, that the game is supposed to do that. According to developers its "GoOd" for the game.

This league is like the worst league you can have to start as a fresh players. Monsters / Bosses got buffed and player defensive capabilities got nerfed.

Or you can play like the Hardcore (1 death -> character lost) players, who just ignore 80% of the game, because you could die there.