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Zepondrax Sep 3, 2021 @ 3:48am
Kitava Fight
Anyone else find this fight unfair or a little less fun? His hand sweep and fist banging, then he disappeared from the ledghe, and his heart came up which i figured aim for in between his monsters he summoned and his 2 mini bosses, halfway through doesnt he destroy that pilon that SIN had you use to help
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melmoth Sep 3, 2021 @ 11:48am 
The thing is that Kitava, like all bosses, is very predictable.

You learn what to expect after a while, and can dodge a lot of his attacks because of it.. not to mention gearing up your character to make getting hit easier to survive... plus, if you're not playing hardcore you can just go back and continue the fight after you're dead.

If anything it's Kitava who should be complaining that the fight is unfair to him!
Endy73 Sep 3, 2021 @ 1:43pm 
The fight is the worst part of the game, imho. Vey annoying, absolutely unbalanced and totaly overburdened by visual fx and monsters.
DaTank (Banned) Sep 3, 2021 @ 2:38pm 
Originally posted by Endy73:
The fight is the worst part of the game, imho. Vey annoying, absolutely unbalanced and totaly overburdened by visual fx and monsters.
Could you please explain how it is unbalanced? And how it's overburdened with fx and monsters?
NixBoxDone Sep 3, 2021 @ 2:44pm 
Most of Kitava's attacks are telegraphed. If you keep a finger on your movement skill you should be able to avoid most of the damage coming at you.
His arm sweeps always go edge to edge, so standing in the centre means you always have some time to move to whichever side it didn't start on.
The explosion has big maclarge huge rune glyphs at all 4 corners that get closer together as they approach the centre (where they'll explode). So long as you locate these 4 corners and walk to where they aren't going (i. e. not the corners and inwards), those do nothing.
The degen wolves are pretty slow, so you just have to keep moving and they shouldn't really do too much damage.
The only attack of his I'd say can blindside you even if you're paying attention is his fist smash - it's also telegraphed a little bit because Kitava lifts a fist for a half second before smashing but it's fast enough that you can get winged anyways if you've been staggered by a mob or just started a skill/attack animation.

The SFX are actually relatively clean in that fight compared to much of the latter boss fights - enemy adds usually aren't a problem unless you ignore them during the heart phase.
Most dangerous of them are the big winged fellas that will belly flop on ya, so just concentrate on them and take them out before you go for the heart and you should be aight.
Almost all boss fights in PoE are finite health bars - i. e. the bosses don't heal. It therefore is recommended that you go for at least enough defenses and health recovery (via leech or health regen) to be able to survive getting smacked by accident and concentrate on evading enemy hits over bursting the bosses down unless you're running a meta build and know for a fact you CAN burst them down before their attacks can become an issue.

If you're struggling with Kitava, chances are you can't burst, so it's better to just stay calm, keep an eye on Kitava, dodge his attacks until you're sure you've identified a relatively secure spot and deal damage when you're safe. It's a marathon, not a sprint and you don't get a medal for beating Kitava 30 seconds faster.
Last edited by NixBoxDone; Sep 3, 2021 @ 2:47pm
Zepondrax Sep 3, 2021 @ 6:12pm 
i did learn his attack pattern, was predicatble. hang to ledge, giant hand sweep, fire flame, then throw heart, attack heart, KItava comes back, attack his minions, and him, repeat

Originally posted by melmoth:
The thing is that Kitava, like all bosses, is very predictable.

You learn what to expect after a while, and can dodge a lot of his attacks because of it.. not to mention gearing up your character to make getting hit easier to survive... plus, if you're not playing hardcore you can just go back and continue the fight after you're dead.

If anything it's Kitava who should be complaining that the fight is unfair to him!
Zepondrax Sep 3, 2021 @ 6:12pm 
Too many minions in such a small space, cold hardly see the cursor anymore

Originally posted by Endy73:
The fight is the worst part of the game, imho. Vey annoying, absolutely unbalanced and totaly overburdened by visual fx and monsters.
xılǝℲ ★ Sep 3, 2021 @ 9:52pm 
Originally posted by Littjara Kinseeker:
Too many minions in such a small space, cold hardly see the cursor anymore

Change your cursor to the huge pink one lol, I did that, its ugly at first but once you get used to it its so much better. I am half blind from a distance so I lost my cursor a lot xD

About Kitava, literally one of the best telegraphed fights. But I do get where you're coming from, for some builds it simply isn't enjoyable and you really have to learn the fight. Also one problem I used to have is loot the minimal amount of gear during leveling, since I am taking it slower to level and actually check for gear upgrades, it helps a lot and never run into any death during leveling (except for the insane OP act 1 atm lol).
Útost Alronbem Sep 4, 2021 @ 3:50am 
You all didn't tried to beat him as close/semi-close combat characters, did you?

Also, your "all telegraphed good" attacks are either reddish stains on reddish background (so visible!) or cover whole combat area at once (so actually no point in watching telegraphs, portal away is better option) or have counter-intuitive mechanics (ground ruffled by hand sweep still damages, wha?!)

*sigh*
But enough pearls for today.
Last edited by Útost Alronbem; Sep 4, 2021 @ 3:50am
NixBoxDone Sep 4, 2021 @ 3:58am 
I'm playing mostly melee units. Cyclone recently. Mainly because melee usually has a lot of really good options for defense in fortify, block, armor stacking, plentiful life nodes and things like stacking endurance charges via enduring cry or blinding via sand stance.

Maybe you've got a problem with eye-sight if you can't see the glowing red runes or pitch black degen effects on the light grey ground. Maybe you're not paying enough attention to Kitava's hands.
Boss fights DO require at least some split attention for both ground effects and the bosses sprite as they perform their telegraphs and animations and if you get panicked (as I tend to do), it's easier to miss them while you're in the heat of the moment.
You're also not supposed to be able to dodge every single bit of damage - just enough of it to not die.

I'd suggest watching a video of someone beating the boss. Without the stress of actually moving your character and seeing your health bar plummeting, the telegraphs and ground effects are really, really clear.

Not appreciating your implication that we're swine just because we don't agree with your definition of boss difficulty or telegraphs by the way. Maybe you should reflect on yourself if you believe disagreeing with someone on a game mechanic online warrants treating them that way.
Last edited by NixBoxDone; Sep 4, 2021 @ 4:04am
Zepondrax Sep 4, 2021 @ 4:04am 
Thanks

Originally posted by xılǝℲ ★:
Originally posted by Littjara Kinseeker:
Too many minions in such a small space, cold hardly see the cursor anymore

Change your cursor to the huge pink one lol, I did that, its ugly at first but once you get used to it its so much better. I am half blind from a distance so I lost my cursor a lot xD

About Kitava, literally one of the best telegraphed fights. But I do get where you're coming from, for some builds it simply isn't enjoyable and you really have to learn the fight. Also one problem I used to have is loot the minimal amount of gear during leveling, since I am taking it slower to level and actually check for gear upgrades, it helps a lot and never run into any death during leveling (except for the insane OP act 1 atm lol).
Útost Alronbem Sep 4, 2021 @ 4:14am 
Originally posted by NixBoxDone:
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I have better suggestion. Or three.
Maybe you'd better check whom you're trying to pick on before making it personal.
Maybe you'd better link a video where telegraphs are better discernable + a guide with means for achieving that.
Maybe you'd better ask yourself why ranting with strangers became more entertaining than actually playing the game (otherwise, if the game is soooooo fun for you - why are you here then?)
But, alas, pearls... pearls...
NixBoxDone Sep 4, 2021 @ 4:30am 
Dude, searching kitava act 5 fight is a matter of 30 seconds on Youtube. I gave you the benefit of the doubt in that I expected you to be able to exert some personal agency and do that much for yourself.
If you can't be arsed to do that much work, then maybe you're better off splitting hairs and arguing that the sky is green with people on a forum, because I'm pretty sure PoE needs you to click things way more than that to succeed.
As to making it personal: you're the one who resorted to implied insults because you had a difference of opinion. If there's anyone making anything personal, it's clearly not me.
If you're angry about being called out for stooping to name-calling that's on you.
I'm on the forum to check for people having issues or talking about stuff in the game inbetween maps - I'm actually playing on the other screen, not squatting over the keyboard waiting to argue about why the game... Maybe you ought to find something more productive to do yourself, eh?
Last edited by NixBoxDone; Sep 4, 2021 @ 4:32am
Útost Alronbem Sep 4, 2021 @ 4:38am 
Originally posted by NixBoxDone:
Dude, searching kitava act 5 fight is a matter of 30 seconds on Youtube.
Maybe you'll post it then? It'll contribute towards this topic's topic, at least.

Meanwhile, in parallel universe:
"- I think that X is badly designed because Y is Z.
- You can make Z tolerable by following this guide or by avoiding Y using this simple trick. Listen...
...
- Oh, man, it makes sense! X is still uncool but at least I have something to stick to...
- Cheers!"

Somehow, in our universe we're ending up with book worth of discussions on how cool boss design in general is, how the game demands making it a second job to be enjoyable and how bad particular players' eyesight is.
Each. Goldern. Time.
Well... Pearls, pearls, pearls...
NixBoxDone Sep 4, 2021 @ 4:43am 
I'm just not feeling up to helping a person out when they write a post complaining about people being unhelpful and end it by insulting them... For the third time in a row. Maybe if you weren't so abrasive, people would be more helpful to you.
Food for thought.
If you had actually read my first post instead of getting upset over me pointing out to you that you're impolite, you'd have noticed that I did make several points about the types of attacks Kitava used, how to avoid them, where to position yourself and where to find videos of the fight to watch so you could study the tells in peace.
Apparently being angry was more important to you than reading that, though.
Last edited by NixBoxDone; Sep 4, 2021 @ 4:48am
Zepondrax Sep 4, 2021 @ 5:24am 
well i do google on youtube but prefer advise too :)
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