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Why did they ruin the only good movement skill for melee builds? (Whirling Blades)
Question in title, can any of the devs answer this question for me, please? I use a Soul Taker and Corsair Sword combo for my duelist blender and I cannot switch to 2 sword because I need to be able to not use mana from the Soul Taker. That being said, with this update, they made whirling blades not usable anymore to anyone who uses the Soultaker. Before the update, you were able to use the whirling blades skill with an axe and it was good because you could get around the map easier this way. Now wtf are melee builds supposed to use? leap slam? It's mainly for getting over obstacles, not getting around maps. Fire dash? Forget it, it's a spell, can't use it either.

Wtf is the point of playing this game anymore if I can't even get around the map easily anymore? Whose decision was it to ruin whirling blades for melee builds? As if all the other builds are not OP enough? Now you remove the mobility of melee builds like duelists and make them essentially useless... Why, why would they do this. Please, someone, tell me that this was a mistake or they did not think this one through...
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Yeti.^^ Apr 14, 2019 @ 7:55pm 
Leap slam is pretty fast (imo) if you put a fa on it and have some attack speed in the tree(or well , anywhere).And at the very least it does not get blocked on obstacles.
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Nakos Apr 14, 2019 @ 8:09pm 
I personally enjoy Consecrated Path.
$𝖒𝔬𝗸𝖊 Apr 14, 2019 @ 8:17pm 
Originally posted by Yeti.^^:
Leap slam is pretty fast (imo) if you put a fa on it and have some attack speed in the tree(or well , anywhere).And at the very least it does not get blocked on obstacles.

No man... You're missing the point or it doesn't seem like you actually read what I wrote... Both of these skills (Leap Slam & Whirling Blades) have completely different functions. Whirling Blades is SOLELY for fast movement from one non-blocked area to another and is faster at least 10 times more than leap slam at this, I'm already using fa, 20/20 & empower for both, so this is negligent. The only time leap slam is good to use is when you have to get across some minor obsticle without having to go around it & this is barely the case even that much. That is it and even then, whirling blades can get out there fast enough so that is no issue. Look at what witch builds have, flame dash, lightning warp, etc.

Like, for ♥♥♥♥♥ sake, melee builds are hard enough as it is, now they have to make it even harder. How are you supposed to have fun on the game if they take away something that essential as a movement skill, look at how many melee builds were affected by this, because I guarantee any good melee builds use a soul taker, it's like these developers are better at figuring out how to milk money out of their fanbase by appealing to the whales & selling microtransactions than actually listening to their community...
Yeti.^^ Apr 14, 2019 @ 8:25pm 
The next league is about melee rework , so hold your horses with the ,,appealing to the whales and microtransactions'' crap.And no , not every good build uses soul taker , quite.. the opposite actually , i haven't seen it for quite a fair bit of time in any build.
And whirling blades weren't usable with axes to begin with , the inability to use whirling blades with it offhand came with the statstick nerf (which , let's be honest , was needed) which really wasn't meant to fook up whirling blades.Collateral damage , you could call it that.
RxL Apr 14, 2019 @ 8:30pm 
Tesla cyclone is a decent melee build fast with "leap slam" and a movement flask (which most melee builds use) no soul taker maybe you might want to check out some builds before jumping the gun on the situation and as the above post says 3.7 they are reworking melee so its not as bad as its ment to be which in all honesty i dont mind how it plays atm especially the cyclone build i run.

And in my opinion i would say Leap Slam is better than Whirling Blades but each to there own
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$𝖒𝔬𝗸𝖊 Apr 14, 2019 @ 8:30pm 
Originally posted by Yeti.^^:
The next league...
whirling blades weren't usable with axes to begin with...

"The next league" ? What good does that do me? There is no mention of fixing Whirling Blades for Melee Builds in the current 3.7 patch notes. Also, I could give a ♥♥♥♥ less about leagues, I like playing standard, yes I know I'm apparently a minority, but I myself prefer not having to constantly make a new character and doing the same repetitive rinse and repeat ♥♥♥♥ over and over again. I prefer waiting at least for them to come out with new content, or at the least, for them to fix ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like this that makes the game less enjoyable, but they're too busy making microtransactions to appeal to the whales as you can tell by any of their recent year YouTube channel videos...

Also, yes Whirling Blades WAS always usable with axes before they decided to ruin it, you could run an axe with whirling blades in your main hand as long as you at least had a 1h sword in your off-hand, so you're wrong on this as well. Let's argue about it more I guess? lol... Just stating my opinion anyway, I don't need any pleas or excuses for their negligence in not knowing how to handle their patches, I want them to see this or at least enough people to realize that they just end up making the game less and less fun with "additions" like this...
Last edited by $𝖒𝔬𝗸𝖊; Apr 14, 2019 @ 8:40pm
Yeti.^^ Apr 14, 2019 @ 8:34pm 
I love how you cut out the part where i explained why you were able to use whirling blades with axes.Guess it wasn't convienient for your point.
Well no wonder there's no ,,patch notes'' the current league is only a month old!They will come when the next league is starting.And gameplay updates that come with leagues make it to standard as well , you know.
No need to jump on conclusions ,,waaa haa they be doing microtransactions constantly''.Did you know that there are different team working on both microtransactions and gameplay?*gasp* Shocking , right?
+ cq + Apr 15, 2019 @ 1:50am 
just get ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ good. If you were good, you wouldn't even care about WB
davidb11 Apr 15, 2019 @ 1:52am 
Flying into rages about Whirling Blades is beyond absurd. Seriously.

And I'm sorry, but I use Flame Dash on my current Reave/multistrike, and it's a damn good movement skill. Apparently you don't like teleporting and love not being able to travel better distances than Whirling blades, and over most obstacles.

I used to use Whirling Blades myself, but I discovered it's actually not as amazing as people give it credit for. Yeah, it's nice, but Flash Dash ignores all ground.

You're lucky you're playing standard, because Whirling blade will not work in the Memories.

Please. Also, the game devs will almost never post here. You need to go to their official forum and complain.
Also, please be aware, the people on the official forum are 30 times worse than all of us. :)



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Grumpy Apr 15, 2019 @ 6:44am 
Originally posted by davidb11:
And I'm sorry, but I use Flame Dash on my current Reave/multistrike, and it's a damn good movement skill. Apparently you don't like teleporting and love not being able to travel better distances than Whirling blades, and over most obstacles.

flame dash, the dream of every fast moving melee char /s
Grumpy Apr 15, 2019 @ 7:20am 
Originally posted by DoodEnGlorie:
They really did ruin the skill (Whirling Blades) if we're being honest with ourselves here. And they do read these by the way believe it or not, so I don't think it matters where you post that much as long as it's related to PoE itself, I even had a PoE Steam dev respond to me before on a different account I have, so I know for a fact. Regardless, I've moved on to other games nowadays anyway, it's not all that fun when they take away main aspects like mobility from melee, so I see where OP is coming from.

they did not change the whirling blade skill at all. they change how offhands work to kill stat sticks.

and "taking away mobility from melee" is quite an exaggeration of the issue. Like already stated you still have leap slam, conc path, shield charge, phase run for melee chars. and if that favours you, you could even use the clunky spell movement skills.
The_Driver Apr 15, 2019 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by DoodEnGlorie:
"they did not change the whirling blade skill at all."

Yes they did you idiot
The change in question is
Originally posted by Patchnotes 3.5:
You can no longer use skills that require a specific weapon if you are dual-wielding and one of your equipped weapons is unsuitable for that skill.
Which is a prototype change for skills rather than an individual change for Whirling Blades. So no, they didn't change the skill.
Grumpy Apr 15, 2019 @ 8:14am 
Originally posted by DoodEnGlorie:
"they did not change the whirling blade skill at all."

Yes they did you idiot, look at the Path of Exile wiki Patch notes, it even says on there as well, you can no longer use an axe with Whirling Blades, MEANING, and hold on, put on your attention hat now, YOU CAN'T USE AN AXE AND A 1H SWORD COMBO WITH WHIRLING BLADES ANYMORE. If that doesn't get through your head, I'm out of ideas. Point is, any melee builds that uses soul taker, which a lot of them do, can no longer have an easy way of getting around the map like the rest of the characters of the game without using a lower tier crappy skill gem like Leap Slam or some other useless garbage instead

seeing that you know the wiki far better than me you might wanna point me to the exact place where this is stated.

like it was explained earlier in that thread WB was never meant be use with axes. Look up old videos of 2013/14 you will see the same weapon class restriction the current gem has. If you would used soul taker in your main hand you could not use the WB gem either.
The only way to use soul taker previously with WB was in the off hand but this offhand use was killed in favour for nerfing stat sticks.

Meaning some game mechanic was changed but not the skill.
Rafein Apr 16, 2019 @ 6:33am 
Was more to fix a bug really. Whirling Blades always required 1-h Sword, Claw, or Dagger only. Soul taker is an axe.

As for the wiki, just head to https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Whirling_Blades and scroll down to bottom for the version history, to see every change that has happened to the skill since it's creation.
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Wipkonijntje Apr 16, 2019 @ 11:02am 
whirling blades ain't a movement skill to begn with right?
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