Is PoE Cooking anybody elses GPU?

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

This game gets my GPU up to 75-78c real fast. Doesnt go over, but games like Ark Survival, Diablo 3, Destiny 2, Cod warfare and pretty much every pc game I own my gpu rarely sees over 65c.

My cpu temps are fine on PoE, I just notice since the last patch my gpu really gets warm. And Yes I have plenty of air flow.


I7 9700k @ 4.6Ghz
GTX 1080ti
16GB ddr4 ram
Ml360r AIO water cooled
p400a case

Just to clarify only this game is causing my gpu to heat up like this since the update.


Cable management is acceptable https://imgur.com/a/pVLb6pE


Just curious if anybody else noticed any extra heat?

I play at 3440x1440 and 1920x1080 resolutions and the temps are the same on both monitors.

[Astasia]

"Cooking" is well above 90C. As games are optimized they will use more of the CPU and GPU to try to push higher and higher framerates, turn on vsync or something if for whatever reason you want to throttle your card. A game that isn't pushing your CPU/GPU to 100% while uncapped is a game that is poorly optimized and seriously bottlenecked on something.

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

Originally posted by Astasia:

"Cooking" is well above 90C. As games are optimized they will use more of the CPU and GPU to try to push higher and higher framerates, turn on vsync or something if for whatever reason you want to throttle your card. A game that isn't pushing your CPU/GPU to 100% while uncapped is a game that is poorly optimized and seriously bottlenecked on something.

You completely avoided my question, thanks.


1 monitor has Gync and the other is 144hz freesync, so Vysnc isnt going to do anything but limit my frames.

By "cooking" I mean hotter than other games, and if you mean to tell me this game is optimized and the other 300 plus games I own are not, then a mod can lock this, because no point going any further.


I listed other games to show its NOT a hardware issue, otherwise more games would be running hot.


I can run COD, EFT, Destiny 2 and others at 3440x1440 120hz or 144z 1080p and not go over 65c to 70c on gpu. I fire up POE and temps reach 75 to 78c in 5 minutes.

I have no performance issues. I was just curious if this game runs hot on other peoples pcs, which you never answered. Thanks anyway.

[BLANK]

Path of Exile heats you up good. 78 is a bit high but not harmful. It's between 68-70 for me, which I also consider high for a game like PoE.

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

Originally posted by BLANK:

Path of Exile heats you up good. 78 is a bit high but not harmful. It's between 68-70 for me, which I also consider high for a game like PoE.

Yeah I thought the game was running warmer than many. I mean I have a front mounted aio, so my card is naturally hotter, but when most triple a titles and early access titles run 10 to 20 degree cooler, you have to wonder wth lol

[Astasia]

A game can't run your GPU any warmer than any other game running at the same capacity. If your GPU is running at 60% then it's being limited by something and is going to be cooler, if it's running at 100% then it's not being limited and is going to run warmer. They are designed to run at 100% and ideally every game would run at that, but the vast majority of games utilize modern day CPUs very poorly and only tap into a fraction of their power due to multi-core complexity, this means many games are going to be running at like 20-40% CPU while bottlenecking your GPU causing it to only run at 40-60%. This is a BAD thing. If your CPU and GPU aren't at 100% then you aren't taking full advantage of them and might as well be using a cheaper option, meaning your money/investment in your machine is being wasted.

You provided great examples, COD and Destiny 2 are console games ported to PC, they have only been optimized to hit a certain target framerate while ignoring most of your PC power. PoE on the other hand was designed first as a PC game it uses more of your cores and leaves your GPU less bottlenecked so it's free to work harder.

Limiting your frames is exactly how you would cool down your GPU if that concerns you. That was the point I was making.

[Duffvader]

I don't know why, but this league, i can limit my fps to 144 fps and barely hear my PC...

Before this League, I limited the fps to 90 because of the annoying noice my PC made.

[DDReave]

Originally posted by Astasia:

"Cooking" is well above 90C. As games are optimized they will use more of the CPU and GPU to try to push higher and higher framerates, turn on vsync or something if for whatever reason you want to throttle your card. A game that isn't pushing your CPU/GPU to 100% while uncapped is a game that is poorly optimized and seriously bottlenecked on something.

POE optomized XD

[ShakeNBakeUK]

Originally posted by Toothless Raider:

This game gets my GPU up to 75-78c real fast. Doesnt go over, but games like Ark Survival, Diablo 3, Destiny 2, Cod warfare and pretty much every pc game I own my gpu rarely sees over 65c.

turn off global illumination or w/e its called
and set shadow setting to default (low?) for some reason high/ultra CANES my gpu

[Pew]

Originally posted by ShakeNBakeUK:

turn off global illumination or w/e its called
and set shadow setting to default (low?) for some reason high/ultra CANES my gpu

you sir saved my gpu, tyvm

[desrtfox071]

A game cannot cook your GPU. Only a lack of proper cooling can do that. A game can only push your GPU to 100%. Your GPU should be able to handle that and keep under dangerous temperatures. If not, that's a system cooling issue, not a game issue.

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

Originally posted by desrtfox071:

A game cannot cook your GPU. Only a lack of proper cooling can do that. A game can only push your GPU to 100%. Your GPU should be able to handle that and keep under dangerous temperatures. If not, that's a system cooling issue, not a game issue.

Pretty sure everybody here but you knew what I meant. We all know that a game cant cook a gpu, they would need to provide seasoning! But what you clearly dont understand about computers and software, is that some software, in this case, a game, can and does cause the gpu to work harder than it needs to. Yes, all modern gpus have built in protection to safely shut it down before cooking.

But when 300 + games new and old barely work the card out, and 1 game from several years ago makes the gpu temps hotter by 20 C than any other game on the market, for a vast majority of gamers, the term "cooking my gpu" is understandable.

Cooling isnt an issue. No game hits 70 on my rig, hell, No game goes over 65c at 3440x1440.


This game, however, reaches 77C at 1920x1080 or 3440x1440 in less than 10 minutes.

And a google search will show you I am not the only one. Hell, this thread, others have expressed similar concerns.


Is 77C too hot? No. But when every single game hits a max of 65c, I will question why a game of almost a decade says, hey, lets make it hot in here. and raises the temp by 13 to 15 c hotter than every game I own?


I have been building pcs for over 20 years. I know how to build a pc and I know when something is causing a pc to work harder. Thankfully some gamers here have made suggestions on what to turn off in gamer to lower temps.

The fact I had to explain this.....

[The_Driver]

Originally posted by Toothless Raider:

Is 77C too hot? No. But when every single game hits a max of 65c, I will question why a game of almost a decade says

The age of a game says nothing, if the graphics and gameplay are updated often, requirements and "usage" go up a lot.

Try furmark to stress your GPU to see where it gets when you actually use it. That way you don't have games with diverse gameplay (think Borderlands, bit of fighting, then just driving around exploring stuff with hardly more workload then shifting polygons) that leave the GPU time to cool down.

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

Originally posted by The_Driver:

Originally posted by Toothless Raider:

Is 77C too hot? No. But when every single game hits a max of 65c, I will question why a game of almost a decade says

The age of a game says nothing, if the graphics and gameplay are updated often, requirements and "usage" go up a lot.

Try furmark to stress your GPU to see where it gets when you actually use it. That way you don't have games with diverse gameplay (think Borderlands, bit of fighting, then just driving around exploring stuff with hardly more workload then shifting polygons) that leave the GPU time to cool down.

Like I said several times already and just am gonna unfollow the thread as I got the info I needed. The issue isnt with my gpu. Its the game. There is more than enough info online to prove that.



The Division 2 3440x1440 Max Settings 65C
GTA 5 3440x1440 Max Settings 55c
Ark Survival 3440x1440 Max Settings 50 to 60c
7 Days to DIe 3440x1440 Max Settings 55C
Satifactory 3440x1440 Max Settings 65C
Dead Rising 4 3440x1440 Max Settings 57C
Valheim 3440x1440 Max Settings 55C
Outriders 3440x1440 Max Settings 58C
Fallout 76 3440x1440 Max Settings 49 to 57 C
Albion Online 3440x1440 Max Settings 45 to 60C(depends if ZVZ)
SWTOR 3440x1440 Max Settings 42 to 50C
Warhammer 2 3440x1440 Max Settings 55 to 60C
Batman Arkham 3440x1440 Max Settings 59C
State of Decay 3440x1440 Max Settings 65C
Diablo 3 3440x1440 Max Settings 45 to 55 C
Destiny 2 3440x1440 Max Settings 55 to 65 C

Path of Exiles. 1920x1080 or 3440x1440 65 to 77 C

So as you can see, I can play openworld games, games with plenty of moving parts, gamesa that run hotter than some. Only POE gives my card a hard hard work out. But Ill try turning off some of the things mentioned above. The GPU is rated for 84c before any OCing, so I have plenty of room still,

Ive ran furmark in the past, it doesnt get as hot as when I run POE lol. Ill have to download it later and make a video. Thats the point im making. POE runs hotter than any stress test or game I have seen,

[desrtfox071]

Originally posted by Toothless Raider:

Originally posted by desrtfox071:

A game cannot cook your GPU. Only a lack of proper cooling can do that. A game can only push your GPU to 100%. Your GPU should be able to handle that and keep under dangerous temperatures. If not, that's a system cooling issue, not a game issue.

Pretty sure everybody here but you knew what I meant. We all know that a game cant cook a gpu, they would need to provide seasoning! But what you clearly dont understand about computers and software, is that some software, in this case, a game, can and does cause the gpu to work harder than it needs to. Yes, all modern gpus have built in protection to safely shut it down before cooking.

But when 300 + games new and old barely work the card out, and 1 game from several years ago makes the gpu temps hotter by 20 C than any other game on the market, for a vast majority of gamers, the term "cooking my gpu" is understandable.

Cooling isnt an issue. No game hits 70 on my rig, hell, No game goes over 65c at 3440x1440.


This game, however, reaches 77C at 1920x1080 or 3440x1440 in less than 10 minutes.

And a google search will show you I am not the only one. Hell, this thread, others have expressed similar concerns.


Is 77C too hot? No. But when every single game hits a max of 65c, I will question why a game of almost a decade says, hey, lets make it hot in here. and raises the temp by 13 to 15 c hotter than every game I own?


I have been building pcs for over 20 years. I know how to build a pc and I know when something is causing a pc to work harder. Thankfully some gamers here have made suggestions on what to turn off in gamer to lower temps.

The fact I had to explain this.....

Well, obviously cooling is an issue, or else you wouldn't be seeing excessive heat. The problem, and the fix, lies there.

Now, yeah, naturally you can throttle the game in some way to avoid your systemic issue. Shouldn't that have been obvious too then? So why even post, just throttle your rig to avoid excessive heat, or fix your rig.

I guess I just thought you wanted to actually solve your issue, rather than patch it up Band-Aid style.

My bad.

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

Originally posted by desrtfox071:

Originally posted by Toothless Raider:

Pretty sure everybody here but you knew what I meant. We all know that a game cant cook a gpu, they would need to provide seasoning! But what you clearly dont understand about computers and software, is that some software, in this case, a game, can and does cause the gpu to work harder than it needs to. Yes, all modern gpus have built in protection to safely shut it down before cooking.

But when 300 + games new and old barely work the card out, and 1 game from several years ago makes the gpu temps hotter by 20 C than any other game on the market, for a vast majority of gamers, the term "cooking my gpu" is understandable.

Cooling isnt an issue. No game hits 70 on my rig, hell, No game goes over 65c at 3440x1440.


This game, however, reaches 77C at 1920x1080 or 3440x1440 in less than 10 minutes.

And a google search will show you I am not the only one. Hell, this thread, others have expressed similar concerns.


Is 77C too hot? No. But when every single game hits a max of 65c, I will question why a game of almost a decade says, hey, lets make it hot in here. and raises the temp by 13 to 15 c hotter than every game I own?


I have been building pcs for over 20 years. I know how to build a pc and I know when something is causing a pc to work harder. Thankfully some gamers here have made suggestions on what to turn off in gamer to lower temps.

The fact I had to explain this.....

Well, obviously cooling is an issue, or else you wouldn't be seeing excessive heat. The problem, and the fix, lies there.

Now, yeah, naturally you can throttle the game in some way to avoid your systemic issue. Shouldn't that have been obvious too then? So why even post, just throttle your rig to avoid excessive heat, or fix your rig.

I guess I just thought you wanted to actually solve your issue, rather than patch it up Band-Aid style.

My bad.

Once again, and I dont know how else to say it, I only Speak English. There is NO ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mother chucking heating issues on my pc. I can run this game within range. I was asking why this game runs hotter than every game on the market today.

But I am guessing you work for GGG or else you wouldnt act so blindly loyal.

300 games cause no issues for thousands of gamers. 1 game causes increased heat for hundreds of gamers. Must be a them problem, never a game problem.


Proof?

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2828713/page/1#p23102687 reported in 2020

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2218998/page/1#p15818329 reported om 2018

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2708762/page/1#p22664051 reported in 2019

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/a7r7a5/my_gpu_gets_to_80_degress_while_playing_path_of/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/238960/discussions/0/2796125475563433743/

But here you go, Furmark ran, 58C max temp for 1920x1080. 167min fps 171 max fps 169 fps average,
https://imgur.com/a/HsVsxOH


So tell me again, how my pc has cooling issues when POE runs it 20 C hotter than a benchmark test?

Please, I got all day. I am off today.