Reflect physical damage mod is cancer.

[Outsider]

I'm sitting in my first tier 5 map with reflect 13% physical damage modifier and thinking if I just abandon it and run something else.
It's literally unplayable, pack of 10 mobs drain most of my 5.5k HP in one lacerate, I can barely keep up with my leech/life on kill and flasks.
How am I supposed to beat this? Cheese with summons and spells I'm not built for? I was confidently face tanking pretty much anything up to this point.

[Grumpy]

Publicado originalmente por Shotgunwilly:

Publicado originalmente por иσρ Deadbubble:

No, glass cannon is a build that deals alot of damage but has no defense. However, if your dps is decent, doesn't matter how much hp/defenes you have, reflect is gonna ♥♥♥♥ you up, every time.

Your confusing a glass cannon with a paper tiger.

and you confusing a game mechanics which is made to avoid with one to work with.

[teknik1200]

scour and re-roll. for what it's worth phys reflect is a non issue for me, ele reflect on the other hand...

[Naesala]

If you're concerned about physical damage reflection, there are 2 items that could grant you enough to survive most of it, although I would recommend using 3 for 100% reduced reflect damage taken, these 2 items are watcher's eye prismatic jewel (with up to 50% reflected damage reduction when using determination) and sibyl's lament for another 40%

[Mulder]

Either doN't do it (I don't do reflect elemental damage maps at all on my ice nova build) or alter your build so you can do it.

[Grumpy]

Publicado originalmente por Naesala:

If you're concerned about physical damage reflection, there are 2 items that could grant you enough to survive most of it, although I would recommend using 3 for 100% reduced reflect damage taken, these 2 items are watcher's eye prismatic jewel (with up to 50% reflected damage reduction when using determination) and sibyl's lament for another 40%

how would you use 3? sybil is either 40% ele reflect or phys reflect, depending on the side. watchers eye is limited to one.

[Tincup_the_Middleman]

Ya just don't do maps with mods your build can't handle well. Reroll or just sell/skip map. My entire guild doesn't run "no regen". Just preference based on our builds. Same as farming maps vs farming bosses. When farming maps , a lot of people skip bosses and focus on fast pack mob clearspeed.

[CyberDown]

While there is a great post on the offical forums that makes a solid case for the removal of these map mods (im all for them its still a good argument though)

The real issue are map bosses or uniques that have reflect on them...at least the map tells you before hand while the bosses just one shot you.

[Grumpy]

Publicado originalmente por CyberDown:

While there is a great post on the offical forums that makes a solid case for the removal of these map mods (im all for them its still a good argument though)

The real issue are map bosses or uniques that have reflect on them...at least the map tells you before hand while the bosses just one shot you.

which other map bosses besides atziri have reflect? :o

[Old Cat 🐱]

Publicado originalmente por E D M:

Some things you simply cannot do in PoE with every character.

Nah, top builds faceroll everything.

[Rinko]

Publicado originalmente por Grumpy:

which other map bosses besides atziri have reflect? :o

Racecourse map boss, the fighting bull has a reflect ability that has a yellow effect under it's feet. When you put your cursor over the boss it should say under it's health bar "casts damage reflection"

[Wolfram]

Do your defences also apply to reflect damage? They do don't they? It's been quite a time since I had trouble with a reflect map.

[Grumpy]

Publicado originalmente por Wolfram:

Do your defences also apply to reflect damage? They do don't they? It's been quite a time since I had trouble with a reflect map.

yes they do:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Damage_reflection#Reflect_mitigation

[Naesala]

Publicado originalmente por Grumpy:

Publicado originalmente por Naesala:

If you're concerned about physical damage reflection, there are 2 items that could grant you enough to survive most of it, although I would recommend using 3 for 100% reduced reflect damage taken, these 2 items are watcher's eye prismatic jewel (with up to 50% reflected damage reduction when using determination) and sibyl's lament for another 40%

how would you use 3? sybil is either 40% ele reflect or phys reflect, depending on the side. watchers eye is limited to one.

With 3 I mean a 3rd reflected damage reduction source, sybil would grant 40% against physical, watcher's eye could potentially grant up to 50% with the right property and determination on, while the 3rd and final source to make it 100% could be an elder/shaper ring with the 10-20% reflected damage reduction mod, there are also body armours with a similar one up to 30%, but well, there's a 10% node in the talent tree too, for physical that is.

[Errxr.404]

u need enough life leech and attack speed, lol. My build is almost immune to reflect because of that.

[Grumpy]

Publicado originalmente por SynTeX:

u need enough life leech and attack speed, lol. My build is almost immune to reflect because of that.

Pls enlighten us how leech can help when you ONE SHOT yourself?

thats only works if your leech is the same or bigger than your actually damage of your hits.