Is evasion finally viable?

[Extinction]

Like the title said, 2 years ago i tried my hands on an evasion build, just to notice that it sucked hard. Why? because if something connects you got the full load of damage. and since everything in this game does so much damage it was impossible to play without frustration. i always did well with armor builds. Did they fix it?

[The_Driver]

Works as intended.

Look at what Evasion* does. Then come to the conclusion, that evasion as a sole form of damage mitigation will not help you. So play accordingly and layer your defenses.

* https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Evasion

[Extinction]

Well IMO iron reflexes is a godsent and is a must have. Never had good experience using evasion in boss fights.

[GetGrenade]

"Is evasion viable?" - Yes, it is very viable for any build that uses Queen of the Forest, in order to get insane amounts of movement speed from evasion.

[Extinction]

Does movement speed help you in cramped spaces like act 3 has lots of? Queen of the forest should also work with iron reflexes correct?

[GetGrenade]

Movement speed helps you clear maps very fast.
Iron Reflexes node does not work with QotF.

[Grumpy]

Originally posted by Extinction:

Does movement speed help you in cramped spaces like act 3 has lots of? Queen of the forest should also work with iron reflexes correct?

act 3 nice......... thats where the hot ♥♥♥♥ is played nowadays.

seriously, every answer you get is talking about endcontent. in the level content, especially the start of the game like in this case, neither evasion nor armor is viable. get life + resis and boom case closed till you get to maps.

[NPC_LUKE]

Originally posted by Extinction:

Like the title said, 2 years ago i tried my hands on an evasion build, just to notice that it sucked hard. Why? because if something connects you got the full load of damage. and since everything in this game does so much damage it was impossible to play without frustration. i always did well with armor builds. Did they fix it?

Snape kills Dumbledore.

[Wolfram]

Yes he does.

[Cowtipper]

Originally posted by Grumpy:

Originally posted by Extinction:

Does movement speed help you in cramped spaces like act 3 has lots of? Queen of the forest should also work with iron reflexes correct?

act 3 nice......... thats where the hot ♥♥♥♥ is played nowadays.

seriously, every answer you get is talking about endcontent. in the level content, especially the start of the game like in this case, neither evasion nor armor is viable. get life + resis and boom case closed till you get to maps.

This is exactly correct :P life + res = steamroll the base content , another tip would be if your going evasion also try to blind.

[Drake]

Originally posted by Cowtipper:

Originally posted by Grumpy:

act 3 nice......... thats where the hot ♥♥♥♥ is played nowadays.

seriously, every answer you get is talking about endcontent. in the level content, especially the start of the game like in this case, neither evasion nor armor is viable. get life + resis and boom case closed till you get to maps.

This is exactly correct :P life + res = steamroll the base content , another tip would be if your going evasion also try to blind.

Blind is actually valid for any playstyle, more so if you are NOT evasion, since blind becomes more effective the less evasion you have. Blind gives you half of the evasion missing to get to 100% (so if you have 0 evasion, blind gives you +50%, if you have 75% evasion, blind gives you +12.5%).

[sal]

evasion is "viable" but not as a sole layer of defense

[Diogenes]

Originally posted by LOL_PENlS:

Originally posted by Extinction:

Like the title said, 2 years ago i tried my hands on an evasion build, just to notice that it sucked hard. Why? because if something connects you got the full load of damage. and since everything in this game does so much damage it was impossible to play without frustration. i always did well with armor builds. Did they fix it?

Snape kills Dumbledore.

Dumbledore asked Snape to kill him.

True story.

[valon]

Originally posted by Extinction:

Does movement speed help you in cramped spaces like act 3 has lots of? Queen of the forest should also work with iron reflexes correct?

All i can say is what a few others have, no one defence will work well. need all of them, focus on one is a waste. i was doing all armor and i can say from experiance its great till act 4, then doesnt work as well as it did. do what i did and look at poe wiki it will help.

evasion for miss chances, armor to mitigate damage taken, ES and life to absorb what gets through.

[Detergent]

Evasion has and always been viable. You just need to know what kinda build/playstyle to use it with.

Copied from the wiki
Evasion is not purely based on chance in the sense that each hit is independent. Instead, it uses a system of "entropy" to ensure that enemies won't get long strings of hits or misses by chance.[2] To summarize, these are the calculation steps in each attack:
1. If it is the first time an entity is attacked, or if the time between the last attack and this one is larger than 6 seconds, randomise the entropy from 0–99.
2. Calculate chance to hit of the attacker using the above formula, and add this integer to the entropy counter.
3. If this is 100 or greater, the check counts as a hit. Subtract 100 from the entropy counter. Otherwise it is a miss and the entropy counter doesn't change.
4. A critical hit is evaded on a separate random roll and will not affect this entropy value.

In my experience evasion stacking is best suited for builds that don't get hit very often (Very mobile with high damage and ranged attacks). Queen of the Forest
You still want to manually dodge incoming attacks with your mobility and leave evasion and resists for when you make mistakes and get hit.

But of course, just like armour and energy shield, don't let evasion be your final line of defense. You are going to want other forms of damage mitigation. (Large HP pool, Fortify, Endurance charges, Mind over Matter, etc...) for when your evasion fails.

[Extinction]

yea maybe i am just not very good with evasion, but right now i am running large hp pool with iron reflexes and its going pretty solid in the endgame