Delve is not fun.

[UndeadEnigma1913]

I actually had alot of fun with the Incursion but Delve to me is just frustrating. My brand new Shadow can't keep up with the mining required to keep using lights and dynamite. Exploring a mine where the darkness kills you is stupid. Also I can't damage the monsters in the dark, so I end up getting overwhelmed as my flasks are drained in what seems like an instant. Something needs to change cause the concept is far better than the reality of the game we recieved.

[Raraldor]

Originally posted by Whette Fhartz:

its was a joke bro, sorry it was over your head.

must have been a pretty bad joke.

[Telarion]

Originally posted by christophercurtis89:

I disagree. I understand how delve works. I am not running from the cart and getting kiled by the darkness I am actually staying with my cart and staying on a sideways level. Please don't assume I don't know how to follow game instructions. What I am saying is that Delve is not very forgiving and that the curent version should be retooled so that players can actually focus on exploring the dungeon instead of getting killed because of twenty different factors, or that they should recomend exactly when players can enter the mines without dying so damn quick.

If you would play like me almost 6 years then you would realize GGG does not want a cheesy game where everything gets served by a bunch of servants to a guy who masturbates while playing.

The point is you should work around the resist as best as you can, like with other resistances in the game. From what i have experienced lower level delves are as much profitable as higher ones (except for biome specifics) in terms of fossil caches.

Simple rule will suffice - If you have low darkness resist at that level, explore with caution.

[UndeadEnigma1913]

Thanks for the actual feedback and advice.

[𒀭𒄑𒉋𒂵𒈨𒌋𒌋𒌋]

incursion was easy and fun, but delve is harder and fun. In the end, only difficulty has changed

[Humanoid]

Incursion was boring and unrewarding as ♥♥♥♥.

[Claus]

Originally posted by GhoSta:

upgrade your dark resist to 75% if you want to explore. invest in movespeed (only for darkness farming). phasing is your friend use it!
your character isn't at a high level yet is he? don't stress it to much. just farm delves you can manage, so you can upgrade resist and light radius. you can farm in the darkness later.

yeah... upgrade your stuff dude

That's easier said that done, not all builds are built around movement speed, summoner builds have a tough time in Delve even with shield charge.

Temple was far better than delve in my opinion, it was fun to do. Delve is so anti hardcore that so many i've never seen on softcore rolled there just for this league.

[▰▰ Kkaengi ▰▰]

Originally posted by Claus:

Originally posted by GhoSta:

upgrade your dark resist to 75% if you want to explore. invest in movespeed (only for darkness farming). phasing is your friend use it!
your character isn't at a high level yet is he? don't stress it to much. just farm delves you can manage, so you can upgrade resist and light radius. you can farm in the darkness later.

yeah... upgrade your stuff dude

That's easier said that done, not all builds are built around movement speed, summoner builds have a tough time in Delve even with shield charge.

Temple was far better than delve in my opinion, it was fun to do. Delve is so anti hardcore that so many i've never seen on softcore rolled there just for this league.

while running with the cart, movespeed is actually bad... it scales of your MS.
with a non melee summoner its actually better to stay back as far as possible in my opinion.
shield charge in my opinion is bad in the mine aswell. with that many walls, running is just better and faster.
and yes while summoner's are not the fastest builds, you still get them fast enough to run every sideway into the darkness.

[naka]

Originally posted by Claus:

That's easier said that done, not all builds are built around movement speed, summoner builds have a tough time in Delve even with shield charge.

Heavily disagree! I run a summoner-build this league and I LOVE it for delving! It's so forgiiving for my sloppy mistakes I do when tired after work. It's my first time running summoner, so i follow a recommended build from the forum. I have no issues farming darkness neither.

I loved the temple and was a bit salty at the start of delve, because I missed Alva. But the more I played Delve the more I liked it and I prefer it over Inqursion now.

[Grumpy]

Originally posted by Claus:

Originally posted by GhoSta:

upgrade your dark resist to 75% if you want to explore. invest in movespeed (only for darkness farming). phasing is your friend use it!
your character isn't at a high level yet is he? don't stress it to much. just farm delves you can manage, so you can upgrade resist and light radius. you can farm in the darkness later.

yeah... upgrade your stuff dude

That's easier said that done, not all builds are built around movement speed, summoner builds have a tough time in Delve even with shield charge.

Temple was far better than delve in my opinion, it was fun to do. Delve is so anti hardcore that so many i've never seen on softcore rolled there just for this league.

the cart scales off your movement speed, if you play a slow crab the cart is also very slow, if you play a char with 300% move speed the cart will also be fast. and in this regard delve is better than incursion because in incursion you needed a semi fast char to actually clear the 10 incursions to open the doors

[MEITTI]

When you think about it the mechanic of Delve is quite unforgiving, its basically like larger version of those moving escort-thingies in Labyrinth, except you die if you leave the area. Imagine everywhere else but the light has stacking poison clouds and you get the proper mindset for it.

What makes it seem safer than it is is the fact you can control the level and depth you're in. Generally if your build isn't ready yet, take less risks in Delve the closer the monster level is to yours because the mechanic itself can be harsh. If the mobs are too much for your dude, theres nowhere to run or hide either. You can start taking more risks in depth levels where your darkness resist is 75%.

[meddle]

cry about it big nub

[AzKat 🐔]

Incursion in a nutshell:
"Ahh, Atzoatl."

[Shane]

Quartz flask gives you phasing which will allow you to move through the monsters. I use it and I haven't died from getting trapped since then.

[kazaddum]

Originally posted by Humanoid:

Incursion was boring and unrewarding as ♥♥♥♥.

You were doing it wrong then. The drops were just crazy good and the double corrupts could be almost game breaking good.

[▰▰ Kkaengi ▰▰]

Originally posted by kazaddum:

Originally posted by Humanoid:

Incursion was boring and unrewarding as ♥♥♥♥.

You were doing it wrong then. The drops were just crazy good and the double corrupts could be almost game breaking good.

or well brick your gear haha. but not every player has the mindset to corrupt expensive gear.
yet they always feel forced to and then give up after the first fail.