SRS deal almost no damage

[TeKett]

just me? skele or zombie deals much more damage, litterally srs 5k vs skele 30k vs zombie 15k per minion for my build. even skele caster deals more with the suports for the melee ones.

[Mogletmox]

i always prefered skele caster build over the others..they hit fast and hard

and cover the screen in pew pew pew sfx

[Grumpy]

5k srs per minion translates to 100k

besides that, whats your links on the different minions?

[TeKett]

Originally posted by Grumpy:

5k srs per minion translates to 100k

besides that, whats your links on the different minions?

i have an experimental build via pob, but atm i have:

level 46

srs, 463 dps:
spell totem
light dmg
minion dmg

zombie, 601 dps, slam 1521 dmg, 6 minions, violent dead x1:
minion dmg
life

skele, 1771 dps, 7 minions:
minion dmg
minion spd
melee phys dmg

[Grumpy]

Originally posted by TeKett:

Originally posted by Grumpy:

5k srs per minion translates to 100k

besides that, whats your links on the different minions?

i have an experimental build via pob, but atm i have:

level 46

srs, 463 dps:
spell totem
light dmg
minion dmg

spell totem does 30% less dmg on your level
also why light dmg? melee dmg is probably far better

but thats the problem in your comparison

you have zombies where you utilize the gem for 30% inc dmg for the slam
your zombies are 4L with optimal gems
and your srs are basically 2L with spell totem which reduce dmg and light dmg which is not that great

put all on an equivalent base and SRS starts to deal damage

[TeKett]

Originally posted by Grumpy:

Originally posted by TeKett:

i have an experimental build via pob, but atm i have:

level 46

srs, 463 dps:
spell totem
light dmg
minion dmg

spell totem does 30% less dmg on your level
also why light dmg? melee dmg is probably far better

but thats the problem in your comparison

you have zombies where you utilize the gem for 30% inc dmg for the slam
your zombies are 4L with optimal gems
and your srs are basically 2L with spell totem which reduce dmg and light dmg which is not that great

put all on an equivalent base and SRS starts to deal damage

according to POB light damage is better, i lose 20% dps if i get meele damage.

[Grumpy]

can you link your PoB here? (as pastebin link ofc)

[Awesome!]

Originally posted by TeKett:

according to POB light damage is better, i lose 20% dps if i get meele damage.

i refuse to believe this is accurate

[InsightKnight]

Originally posted by Awesome!:

Originally posted by TeKett:

according to POB light damage is better, i lose 20% dps if i get meele damage.

i refuse to believe this is accurate

It is definitely not correct. SRS does 50% phys and 50% fire damage so any phys or fire support will be overwhelmingly better. What the post is probably referring to is the shock damage bonus which you can gain from other items without sacrificing support gems.

When doing DPS you also have to account for attacks per second. I can bet the SRS does much faster attacks than either zombie or skeles so even though it shows as "less" damage on the tooltip it is actually doing more DPS overall.

[Nodoka]

Path of building does not calculate damage correctly on several skills.
Using / stacking added lightning damage / wrath will NEVER be better then to stack fire / phys.

Your 6 link should look something like this SRS > minion damage > melee phys > melee splash > spell echo

Obviously you swap out melee splash for bosses
and if you use pledge of hands you swap spell echo out.

Anyone that claims otherwise has never played a endgame SRS build.

[Grumpy]

Originally posted by Graveyard Dancers - Nodoka:

Path of building does not calculate damage correctly on several skills.
Using / stacking added lightning damage / wrath will NEVER be better then to stack fire / phys.

Your 6 link should look something like this SRS > minion damage > melee phys > melee splash > spell echo

Obviously you swap out melee splash for bosses
and if you use pledge of hands you swap spell echo out.

Anyone that claims otherwise has never played a endgame SRS build.

SRS - minion dmg - melee phys - melee splash - spell echo are 5 not 6

and nowadays you dont need spell echo anymore, its kinda simple to reach max stacks without it. ruthless or minion speed probably far better for clearing or elemental focus and WED for single target

and I played Srs last league.

[Nodoka]

Originally posted by Grumpy:

Originally posted by Graveyard Dancers - Nodoka:

Path of building does not calculate damage correctly on several skills.
Using / stacking added lightning damage / wrath will NEVER be better then to stack fire / phys.

Your 6 link should look something like this SRS > minion damage > melee phys > melee splash > spell echo

Obviously you swap out melee splash for bosses
and if you use pledge of hands you swap spell echo out.

Anyone that claims otherwise has never played a endgame SRS build.

SRS - minion dmg - melee phys - melee splash - spell echo are 5 not 6

and nowadays you dont need spell echo anymore, its kinda simple to reach max stacks without it. ruthless or minion speed probably far better for clearing or elemental focus and WED for single target

and I played Srs last league.

Oh yeah your right thats only 5 O_x

[Awesome!]

yeah you dont really need echo now that the max is 20

[TeKett]

Originally posted by InsightKnight:

Originally posted by Awesome!:

i refuse to believe this is accurate

It is definitely not correct. SRS does 50% phys and 50% fire damage so any phys or fire support will be overwhelmingly better. What the post is probably referring to is the shock damage bonus which you can gain from other items without sacrificing support gems.

When doing DPS you also have to account for attacks per second. I can bet the SRS does much faster attacks than either zombie or skeles so even though it shows as "less" damage on the tooltip it is actually doing more DPS overall.

srs has atk rate of 2.95.

Originally posted by Grumpy:

can you link your PoB here? (as pastebin link ofc)

https://pastebin.com/dz8K3Tub