Cast on Death support

[Mindtroverted]

Out of all useless gems in the game, this one just takes the cake. Pros could probably make a working build with 99.9% of the gems in the game, but can anyone enlighten me as to why anyone would ever use this particular gem? Am I missing sth? It seems like the trashiest, most situational and redundant gem possible. Like, everything you use is there to help you SURVIVE. So, what is the actual point of this gem?

[Sick Boy]

No, you've got it. You understand everything about the gem already.

Edit: I forgot, if you link it to a portal gem it makes getting back to where you died pretty quick and easy. So there's one not-quite-ridiculous use of it. But that eats up 2 sockets so...

[phadin]

Cast on Death is not a gem you make a build around. Because you're dead when you use it, obviously. Totally useless in Hardcore. For Softcore, you do have a few options. The Portal is good one, as long as where you died isn't going to get you killed the moment you spawn in there. Other effects that could be good are large area effects. Spells that were cast before you died, and spells that trigger off this, continue to act while you are sitting there watching your dead body, which can help clear out a bunch of the enemies that killed you making your return easier later on.

basically, it's there to help players that end up dying a lot get further each time. For a pro who is runnign endgame maps and hardcore, it's useless.

[Leadedcrayon]

cast on death is viable u noob

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfzEKCd1pg4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lf7twsxrjM

[sdshadow]

Maybe good at multiplayer. If you die you give an short, but extreme damage spike to the thing that killed you. But staying alive a few more seconds is always better.
But if you have all defense buffs and you have a 3 link item free, why not using it with this gem?

But more like a fun gadget. See it like "your own reflected damage on death" or "this boss killed me 1000 times, but now he kills himself!"

And it would be good for people that dont understand the boss mechanics. There are some, they fly to the boss, getting oneshot and repeat the same thing without thinking...

And at last: If you have a visit from the most fearful enemy at this game (even the shaper and the elder fear this beast), then it can be your only chance to kill something. I mean the LAG (trademark not only for Grinding Gear Games, but it seems that they are friendly to this beast and then it came more and more).

[sal]

Originally posted by sdshadow:

Maybe good at multiplayer. If you die you give an short, but extreme damage spike to the thing that killed you. But staying alive a few more seconds is always better.
But if you have all defense buffs and you have a 3 link item free, why not using it with this gem?

But more like a fun gadget. See it like "your own reflected damage on death" or "this boss killed me 1000 times, but now he kills himself!"

And it would be good for people that dont understand the boss mechanics. There are some, they fly to the boss, getting oneshot and repeat the same thing without thinking...

And at last: If you have a visit from the most fearful enemy at this game (even the shaper and the elder fear this beast), then it can be your only chance to kill something. I mean the LAG (trademark not only for Grinding Gear Games, but it seems that they are friendly to this beast and then it came more and more).

fairly certain if you kill the boss after you die you wont get quest progress, so thats worth noting against shaper/elder

[nozwizard]

if my knowledge not eludes me, cast on death support gems can be used at your minions. so their death can be useful. also if i remember correctly, srs considered as minion.
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Summon_Raging_Spirit

[Mindtroverted]

Originally posted by Slayist:

cast on death is viable u noob

I think my fav line from the video is "This build has LIMITED HARDCORE VIABILITY."

Originally posted by nozwizard:

if my knowledge not eludes me, cast on death support gems can be used at your minions. so their death can be useful. also if i remember correctly, srs considered as minion.
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Summon_Raging_Spirit

I'm fairly certain that the gem explicitly states that it doesn't work on minions of any kind. If it did, it would be: a) completely OP b) in every summoner build

[Wipkonijntje]

can't u combine cast on death with minions?

[Mindtroverted]

Originally posted by Wipkonijntje:

can't u combine cast on death with minions?

Not only does it not work on standard summoner spells that summon minions, but it also doesn't work with any spells that duplicate your character like Mirror Arrow because the gem explicitly says that the copy of you is considered a minion. If you look at the wiki page for COD gem, you will see that it DOES NOT apply to minions.

[Lord Commander]

The best setup is Cast on Death linked to Rage quit

[Detergent]

Cast on Death + Portal Gem
Not hardcore viable

[Wipkonijntje]

cast on dead + spell echo support

[SirBob]

Originally posted by Mindtroverted:

Out of all useless gems in the game, this one just takes the cake. Pros could probably make a working build with 99.9% of the gems in the game, but can anyone enlighten me as to why anyone would ever use this particular gem? Am I missing sth? It seems like the trashiest, most situational and redundant gem possible. Like, everything you use is there to help you SURVIVE. So, what is the actual point of this gem?

Silly softcore players will link cast on death with portal so when they die speed running through the campaign they can get back to where they died.

Softcore scrubs are silly though, your right its worthless.

[dEAdOnE77]

..and it will interfere with any "Cast when taken Damage"Gem setup! as i found out the hard way after countless tries to make CwtD work on Broken Crown.

[IvanChe]

My first Sirus drop this league was Awakened cast on death gem