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PoE doesn't let you farm points. :P
Warframe literally allows you to grind, and not insanely difficultly, the platinium you need.
I might have misread a few things.
All I know, is you can't farm points in PoE, and if it did that, some of the people who complain about the MTX will go the way of the Dinosaurs, and not from a massive meteor impact that set the atmosphere on fire and actually dropped the ocean levels a bit as it freaking flashboiled the ocean!
If you want to have annoying microtransaction, go and check Warframe. I love that game as hell, but there you have prices like hell. And not just for cosmetics. And if you try to farm those currencies, which is true, is possible, you find yourself doing activities you not even enjoying and it feels more like going to work than to play a game.
I played Warframe for a small amount of time, because it didn't catch my interest. I recently played Soul Worker which is a fairly easy to play game but it was a lot of fun. I spent some time playing the game and wanted to spend money on cosmetics for it because I felt it was worth the entertainment I got out of it for free. Sadly it had no cosmetics that I wanted. I feel that game could do better if it had someone more creative designing the skins for the game.
these are the leeches the devs are going for when they make a game "f2p"
it helps the economy of the game to have 1000s of dolts wasting all their time grinding for dollars
:smh: the stupidest type of player
.. an example of this was/is the game DDO (dungeons and dragons online) where you could earn TP (toilet paper - turbine points) by making a new character and running through the first few levels and quests to get the bonus 100 TP for reaching 100 favor, which you get from running quests, more for hard and epic than normal, so you run each quest n/h/e, normal, hard, epic so max your favor output. The early quests are very easy and quick, so it is not a big deal.
Then you can just delete the character and do it again.
I may have misremembered all that. But imagine the poor S.O.B.s doing this all day every day, for what? Something that they could have just bought with real money. But some people are on disability for being crazy and do nothing but play video games all day.
... it really is quite tragic
I don't have applicable stats, that's why I made the comment I made. You're comparing this game to a completely different market.
People will possibly spend a few hundred dollars a year on this game, where in mobile gaming, the whales you speak of, will spend that in a week.
http://webcdn.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1590564/page/1
Here, have a source, from 2017. All but two posters in the first page have spent several hundred dollars, from 250 up to 700. One has spent 2,100 dollars, and the other has spent 60 dollars. Certainly not enough to form an accurate image of the entire playerbase, but it rather disproves your statement all the same. Again, if you have "applicable statistics" that show PoE is so wildly different from other F2P titles in this regard, feel free, as I'd be very interested to read through them.
Because you literally have no evidence to back up your numbers. Your numbers are based off mobile games, that's why you're using the term whales. If we are talking about p2w/mobile games then I would agree with you.
In your link every single person who responded there has admitted to spending 10 dollars to a few hundred dollars to 600ish bucks over the course of SEVERAL years. There is one outlier, 2100 he admits, over the course of 2 years. You know what I don't see?
People who haven't spent any money.
This shows how bad your 90/10 numbers are. There is a difference between how this playerbase operates over a p2w/mobile playerbase operates. People spend money on this game because they feel it's worth it, people spend money in a mobile/p2w to stay competitive. Mobile/p2w games rely on "whales" or the 10% of the playerbase. I am willing to bet the majority of this playerbase supports this game, and they don't do it to stay competitive.
If you feel people who spend money any sort of money on a f2p game are whales, then that is a different argument. Or another argument could be made that 10% of the people who spend money could be considered whales, but again, completely different argument.