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anagram May 24, 2019 @ 1:51am
Converting everything to fire and then fire reduction
I read a forum posting that said damage can be converted as follows:
Physical > Lightning > Cold > Fire > Chaos

My idea is to either convert physical/lightning/cold damage to fire and then have fire reduction up to the 90% cap.

I know arctic armour can reduce fire damage, but I do not know of other ways yet.

Is it possible to convert phys/light/cold to fire and then reduce them by 90%? If so, which items/gems/jewels/passives would do this?

Another idea is to convert it all to chaos then use chaos inoculation.

thx
Last edited by anagram; May 24, 2019 @ 1:52am
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Master Bernd May 24, 2019 @ 7:39am 
You gain reduction of the fire damage YOU TAKE through increase of your Fire Resistance. While it is possible to convert some of the damage you take in another type of damage, like taking 10% of physical damage as fire damage (rare mod on elder/shaper bases), it is hard to achieve. The reason is that the mods that convert the Damage you take are not only rare, but also have lower numerical values, meaning you won't be able to wear enough gear to completly convert all the damage you take.
Some unique items that convert the damage you take: Lightning Coil, The Rat Cage and, probably one of the best, Incandescend Heart, which is the best way to convert a lot of the damage you take into chaos damage.
Flaks like Taste of Hate also help with the converstation.
A list with more ways to convert the damage you take can be found on the wiki: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Damage_taken_as
Linkk May 24, 2019 @ 7:59am 
What you've read is Damage conversion, which is the conversion you can do with your damaging skills:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Damage_conversion

But what you're descibing is taking damage as (like the post above me said).
You can do that to take less damage, but it will be not easy to get your hands on
anagram May 24, 2019 @ 2:49pm 
Thanks for feedback. What about just wearing whatever reduces damage instead ?

gems:
Arctic armor- reduces fire and physical
Chaos golem-reduces physical
enfeeble-reduces their damage
determination-boosts armor

gear:
starkonja helm-reduces damage 50% when on low life
or: leer cast helm-net of 15% reduced damage
kintsugi armor-reduces damage 20% if not hit recently
red trail boots- 10% phys reduction when standing
belt of the deceiver-30% reduced crits
kikazaru ring-40% reduced curses

maybe there are other things to help reduce? Are all they reductions of the same type additive or multiplicative or does it only pick the highest? Like, would all they phys reductions add up or otherwise?
Detergent May 24, 2019 @ 3:25pm 
Starkonja and Leer Cast reduce the damage your character deals.
anagram May 24, 2019 @ 3:54pm 
Originally posted by RandomHero:
Starkonja and Leer Cast reduce the damage your character deals.
woah...good to know! Do the rest reduce the damage I would sustain?

as those two helmets won't work, would gorgon's mask reduce damage I sustain or is it bad for me too?
Last edited by anagram; May 24, 2019 @ 3:55pm
Detergent May 24, 2019 @ 5:20pm 
Yes Gorgon's Gaze has damage taken reduction. (I'm pretty sure)
The physical damage reduction is worded a bit strange.
"5% additional Physical Damage Reduction while moving"
"5% reduced Elemental Damage taken while stationary"

Usually they add they key word "taken" when you are dealing with reduced incoming damage. Like with that reduced elemental damage. But im pretty sure thats still saying you take reduced physical damage.
Last edited by Detergent; May 24, 2019 @ 5:21pm
Dregor May 24, 2019 @ 8:03pm 
Originally posted by AReilly:
Thanks for feedback. What about just wearing whatever reduces damage instead ?

maybe there are other things to help reduce? Are all they reductions of the same type additive or multiplicative or does it only pick the highest? Like, would all they phys reductions add up or otherwise?

Generally speaking a build stacking a bunch of different things to reduce damage taken with an effect isn't going to be very useful because you're likely to be losing out on a lot of normal damage mitigation (health, armor, ES, resistances, etc). Even if you have 90% resistance to all damage but you have 0 elemental resistances then you aren't helping yourself much and likely gimping yourself in other ways.

The best thing to do is read over the wiki page regarding receiving damage:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Receiving_damage
Last edited by Dregor; May 24, 2019 @ 8:08pm
anagram May 24, 2019 @ 10:11pm 
Originally posted by Dregor:
Originally posted by AReilly:
Thanks for feedback. What about just wearing whatever reduces damage instead ?

maybe there are other things to help reduce? Are all they reductions of the same type additive or multiplicative or does it only pick the highest? Like, would all they phys reductions add up or otherwise?

Generally speaking a build stacking a bunch of different things to reduce damage taken with an effect isn't going to be very useful because you're likely to be losing out on a lot of normal damage mitigation (health, armor, ES, resistances, etc). Even if you have 90% resistance to all damage but you have 0 elemental resistances then you aren't helping yourself much and likely gimping yourself in other ways.

The best thing to do is read over the wiki page regarding receiving damage:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Receiving_damage
Those are good points, I'm going to be sure i have health, armor and resists covered while doing this or else I'll scrap the plan. thanks for the responses.
Ratio decidendi May 25, 2019 @ 1:01am 
There is a mod that sets a percentage of physical damage to be taken as elemental/fire/cold/lightning damage. These are really strong because of the way elemental resistance works (compared to physical reduction/armour). You can craft these on helmets (fossil) and they also drop from the Temple.

There are many ways to increase your ehp and defensive utility, stacking damage taken conversion is just one, It is more efficient to utilise a few of them, such as incorporating dodge/spell dodge, using block/spell block, going CI, and using VP, Blood Magic and leech.

There are also many strong items you can utilise. Eternity Shroud with Solstice Vigil is probably the strongest option right now, to have enough without compromising edps (in fact, Eternity Shroud can more than double your damage with full shaper items while stacking elemental damage conversion). Incandescent Heart with CI is a more accessible and cheaper option. Loreweave had been nerfed but you can still get up to 78% max resist. Some of the synthesised items are really strong too - you can get over 1k ES on rare Vaal Regalia or some damage mitigation/curse immunity when corrupted implicits on shields.
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