Can You Even Die In PoE? Looks TOO Easy

[DuX1112]

What am I missing? Like almost every video I've seen of PoE looks like... Like it's not a game at all. Point in case this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iR8imrncYM

The player just goes this way or that way, casts abilities all the time, loses almost no health at all, all enemies just effortlessly and instantly die...?

What am I missing here? Where's the challenge? What is the challenge actually?

Is it just some analogy to opening random loot boxes by killing enemies in random ways? Kill enemy -> chance for random loot. So it's like gambling actually, the "combat" not actually being real combat just pulling levers like on a slot machine?

[BelChris666]

Roll a hardcore and find out. For real though the story portion and some endgame play of PoE is a WTF producer. The general flow of the game is speed between packs and kill but every once in awhile you hit a pack with a tough combo of mods that will challenge your build or cause an insta.

On the other hand the later endgame can get quite challenging even with a decently geared dude.

Endgame consists of farming maps that you then craft more mods on to farm higher and more harder maps. There is also different systems of sorta infection that happens in endgame that you can shape and produce very high end gear. durring this portion it is quite easy just hit a wall because you need to git gud or farm out better gear.

I mostly enjoy this portion of the game but it can become super grindy so I can see why many dropout or roll alts at this point. Anyways try out the game it is a bunch of fun once you get past the info overload.

[Rikkore]

Looks can be deceiving. Also the gameplay is about someone grinding blood aqueducts which is designed to help you get easy levels.

Play the game and see for yourself

[Voidlord597]

People going through the effort to make and properly edit videos are probably the more experienced players who want to show off their builds

[Sosii]

if you really want a challenge play it yourself, and don't look up a build. Make your own, i promise you'll die enough to where you'll delete that character and either make a new one, or uninstall the game.

[Detergent]

Originally posted by Alureon:

if you really want a challenge play it yourself, and don't look up a build. Make your own, i promise you'll die enough to where you'll delete that character and either make a new one, or uninstall the game.

[joj0.st4r]

it is an ARPG
they are not hard... then some boss comes along and 1shots you/u adapt
thats just how they work
and poe might look more complex than other ARPGs but it is really not

and if u want a more acurate representation of how the game works for "new" players
try looking at new players at lower lvls
twitch
and pretty much any of the korean streamers(lol)

[Kilrathii]

The challenge is getting a good build, loot and getting level 100 before league finishes.

[davidb11]

Originally posted by DuX1112:

What am I missing? Like almost every video I've seen of PoE looks like... Like it's not a game at all. Point in case this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iR8imrncYM

The player just goes this way or that way, casts abilities all the time, loses almost no health at all, all enemies just effortlessly and instantly die...?

What am I missing here? Where's the challenge? What is the challenge actually?

Is it just some analogy to opening random loot boxes by killing enemies in random ways? Kill enemy -> chance for random loot. So it's like gambling actually, the "combat" not actually being real combat just pulling levers like on a slot machine?

Is this a joke post? Because it's not something people say in a serious manner at all.
There has never been someone who had said something this silly before.

And that includes every comedian dating back to when they were court jesters. :)

[C0DEx]

Originally posted by DuX1112:

What am I missing? Like almost every video I've seen of PoE looks like... Like it's not a game at all. Point in case this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iR8imrncYM

The player just goes this way or that way, casts abilities all the time, loses almost no health at all, all enemies just effortlessly and instantly die...?

What am I missing here? Where's the challenge? What is the challenge actually?

Is it just some analogy to opening random loot boxes by killing enemies in random ways? Kill enemy -> chance for random loot. So it's like gambling actually, the "combat" not actually being real combat just pulling levers like on a slot machine?

I dont get why you dont just try the game? If you are new you will probably not survive Act 1 or 2.

[Ghostlight]

With a basic understanding of the basic mechanics of the game, the average player won't die much during the main campaign, if at all. The challenge comes after that at the end-game, when the player attempts increasingly tough custom maps and similar "increasingly difficult" things. Even then, the challenge is a gear and build check, not a skill check. The game just turns the numbers up until the player simply cannot survive without a better build or better gear.

So yes the skill threshold bar in PoE is very low, however the time investment and build knowledge bars are very very high.

[Mindtroverted]

Originally posted by Ghostlight:

So yes the skill threshold bar in PoE is very low, however the time investment and build knowledge bars are very very high.

It is also worth noting that GGG has lately made significant efforts towards rewarding and ecouraging active, skillful play by discouraging the use of triggered spells and rewarding the active use of skills at opportune moments.
While I generally agree with your statement and wouldn't want it to be different, I still feel like the build knowledge threshold and skill threshold should be closer together. The consequences of these two being too far apart results in weak builds just being devastated regardless of how skillful in positioning, reaction and tactics a player is while a great build will breeze through the same content without requiring virtually any skill.
I feel like some of the changes to bosses also contribute to raising the needed skill bar with very powerful but well-telegraphed boss attacks that can be manually avoided or mitigated by thoughtful and timeful use of appropriate skills.

[Tony Twist's Thunderous Right]

Originally posted by DuX1112:

Is it just some analogy to opening random loot boxes by killing enemies in random ways? Kill enemy -> chance for random loot. So it's like gambling actually, the "combat" not actually being real combat just pulling levers like on a slot machine?

Pretty much.

[Cyseal]

The game is incredibly easy until you reach the hardest content. And that's coming from a person who never reads up builds. The game is just easy. You don't even have to use a healing potion for the first 5-6 acts if you're a new player.

The difficulty feels the same as Diablo 3 on Master for a new character without any bonuses. You probably won't die for the majority of your leveling process.

[davidb11]

Originally posted by Mikaelion:

The game is incredibly easy until you reach the hardest content. And that's coming from a person who never reads up builds. The game is just easy. You don't even have to use a healing potion for the first 5-6 acts if you're a new player.

The difficulty feels the same as Diablo 3 on Master for a new character without any bonuses. You probably won't die for the majority of your leveling process.

Nice joke.

[DuX1112]

Originally posted by C0DEx:

Originally posted by DuX1112:

What am I missing? Like almost every video I've seen of PoE looks like... Like it's not a game at all. Point in case this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iR8imrncYM

The player just goes this way or that way, casts abilities all the time, loses almost no health at all, all enemies just effortlessly and instantly die...?

What am I missing here? Where's the challenge? What is the challenge actually?

Is it just some analogy to opening random loot boxes by killing enemies in random ways? Kill enemy -> chance for random loot. So it's like gambling actually, the "combat" not actually being real combat just pulling levers like on a slot machine?

I dont get why you dont just try the game? If you are new you will probably not survive Act 1 or 2.

I tried it, but I didn't die, and I'm just wondering if I should continue playing. Games where you just collect loot aren't my cup of tea really, it's why I never finished Diablo 3 (game got too samey and easy).