So, how is Hall of Grandmasters a "Tier 9"?

[kalirion]

Spent all 6 "lives" and didn't even manage to clear 3 of the halls. The 3rd hall's level 94 "grandmasters" wiped me in 1-2 seconds. Twice. I'm guessing the last hall would have level 100s?

How is this Tier 9?

I really should've quit before I lost all of my next level progression, but I'm too stubborn...

[The_Driver]

It's tier 9 because it's base map is a Promenade, which is tier 9 and lends some sort of partial tileset to it. Some other unique maps are harder than their equivalent level rares as well, see e.g. Poorjoys.

[Awesome!]

its a trap

[kalirion]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Awesome!:

its a trap

Yeah, I really think it is.

[Rogue]

Mainly because PvP damage scaling is in effect. All you main damage skills are basically nerfed down, attack speed and cast speed too.

[kalirion]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Rogue:

Mainly because PvP damage scaling is in effect. All you main damage skills are basically nerfed down, attack speed and cast speed too.

So are the enemies', right? Doesn't change the fact that I am dead in 1-2 seconds if they catch me in their attacks. Which they do unless I stay far away, and if I stay far away my minions can't get to them (I'm a necro build.) So I'm forced to dart in and dart out, and while I'm darting in I die.

[strigvir]

Well, minion builds are bad at pvp, the sky is blue.

[.posetcay]

Its because most of them are brokenly op ♥♥♥♥ from older patches.

[cyconet101]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย kalirion:

I really should've quit before I lost all of my next level progression, but I'm too stubborn...

I call it arcade fever.. just got to put another quarter in the machine.. in poe it can really screw you lol

[Awesome!]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย .posetcay:

Its because most of them are brokenly op ♥♥♥♥ from older patches.

when things are nerfed the characters in there get nerfed too but i believe the players have a chance to submit a new dude afterwards

[Atzepan]

The thing you need to know is:

A: PvP scaling is in effect, there is some changes to damage on this map compared to all the other maps.

B: Inform you of what type of character are in there. I don't mean builds only but people had to have bought grandmaster supporter Pack which is 500 Buck. So you are meeting character in there from crazy people who paid 500 Buck to do that(they got more, but probably to get their char into the game mainly.

C. Not all nerfs hit old grandmaster. There was in some patch notes even in this league that some changes wasn't retroactive, which could mean that some of the nerfs or changes in the tree doesn't affect grandmaster. The second thing are relic items, old pesky items that often has been overpowered and gotten nerfed over time with only few possibilities to get themwith OP stats today and no possibilities in this league.

This leads you to meet those +30 ex builds, unkillable troll builds(for us pve scrubs), and a lot of other stuff, that are annoying or can kill pve builds in less then a second, +20 K ES builds and a lot of different things.

So unless you are going to look into PvP, it's probably better to hire some for a chaos to do it for you.