DYNASTY WARRIORS: ORIGINS

DYNASTY WARRIORS: ORIGINS

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Gamer de esquerda Jan 21 @ 9:38am
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Lu Bu's fight on Xiapi is just plain BS
Edit: Forget about, he is easy, my bad.
Last edited by Gamer de esquerda; Apr 15 @ 6:48am
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Originally posted by Kacho:
Originally posted by At@At:

Eh he's not OP in a ridiculous way in this game. He's a stat stick like in every Warriors game. The only difference is this game doesn't allow you to outscale him as well as past warrior games and Lubu's fight is a bit of a random high difficulty spike compared to the rest of the game IMO.
Yeah, that's one of my other complaints. Leveling doesn't seem to matter. I never feel like I'm getting more powerful. It's just superficial numbers going up.
On the flip side of that his moves don't change from difficulty to difficulty so if you know how to fight him then higher difficulty just means tightening up your gameplay and setting time aside to chew through his life bar as you already know how to fight him.

Lu Bu is the highest point of officer to officer combat which is fine. Going forward I hope more of the legendary officers get the unique treatment he got. They will change up how they fight based on health, parry your parry, have moves unique to just them etc.
MXD Jan 30 @ 7:24am 
Yeah, him being THAT OP at Xia Pi doesn't make much sense. If there's a battle where I didn't feel bad one bit about downgrading difficulty level, it was this one. But it WAS a cool fight at Easy.
FoxyDean Jan 30 @ 7:27am 
I enjoyed the fight, personally. But I agree that the game really needs to be more transparent about what it wants you to do. As others have said, saving your rage mode to counter his makes the last part much, MUCH easier. But the game doesn't do a lot signal that to you. I suppose you could extrapolate it from the Zhang Jiao fight, but even then it doesn't feel like that's enough of a tutorial.
ARTSQ Jan 30 @ 9:13am 
I finished the fight on Ultimate warrior here.
Actually, with patience and right timings you can remove 2/3 of his HP or even lower before he eliminates all your allies.
But afterwards yes, it's a duel, with a lot of patience.
What I would recommend is to switch weapons inbetween - use crescent blade or gauntlets for armor removal, while Halberd is a main damage dealer (do 5-1 combo for max damage).
He's nothing compared to what you'll go through when trying to get the Conquering and Thrashing Luans :)
played DW the start. he's tough but not unbeatable by a long shot. master perfect dodges and parries, make sure you have an actually good weapon, save up for rage mode over musou, use your bravery smartly, make sure you actually bring healing items beyond just meat buns, can be a potential lifesaver if you're struggling.
Eut Jan 30 @ 3:34pm 
Welcome to the game where they actually heavily shifted into soulslike mechanics. They probably forgot that this was a DW game where you beat on millions of peons and not where you go 1v1 for a long ass time. Especially in xia pi where its supposed to be flooded, everyone's morale should be at rock bottom because the whole point of it was strategy beating pure strength.

Id say they should just keep the BS in ultimate warrior difficulty (especially since its a mandatory fight) and keep a lower morale lu bu in other diffs (morale is what makes him tanky and a dumb grind).

If it was hu lao Lu Bu when he was smashing people left and right then it makes sense for him to be that strong. But really in xia pi? No way
Shad Jan 30 @ 3:51pm 
I would be OK with the difficulty of fighting Lu Bu on hero diff, if the health weren't so bloated. You learn his moveset, you parry/dodge and whittle his shields down and get the assault... only to see the HP bar to lose like 5%. Now you need to do it again. And again. And again. And again.

Like 7-8 times, before the game progresses to the next stage of the fight and makes him supersayian. Which once you figure it out is a trivial "have you saved your musou for a rage?" check.

All 3 chevron enemies need HP to be toned down, but Lu Bu in particular.
Originally posted by Gamer de esquerda:
Seriously, not in any of the previous DW he is that ridiculous

Not only because of his moveset or because you have to fight him entirely on your own (your allies fall all in seconds), but because his HP bar is absurd.

Even when you're near killing him he'll activate a "god war rage mode" where you'll do next to no damage to him while he unleashes only unblockable moves. Seriously, I was loving the game until this point, but what a pathetic design fight.

I'm about 8 levels above the recommended level for this fight and got a grade 5 +11 sword
i agree that early on he kinda of a pain atleast there is a in mission checkpoint, and it's gonna be even more pain when am gonna have to fight him AGAIN in true warrior difficulty + challenge
Originally posted by Wanderer:
you gonna be surprise when you find out how to get red hare :D

Lu bu without healing in UW

Originally posted by Kacho:
Originally posted by At@At:

Eh he's not OP in a ridiculous way in this game. He's a stat stick like in every Warriors game. The only difference is this game doesn't allow you to outscale him as well as past warrior games and Lubu's fight is a bit of a random high difficulty spike compared to the rest of the game IMO.
Yeah, that's one of my other complaints. Leveling doesn't seem to matter. I never feel like I'm getting more powerful. It's just superficial numbers going up.
it actually does matter i've done all the endings in vagabon difficulty or Normal ( and i had a harder time the first go ) the second go i went with the hallebard which went pretty smouthly if you ask me took some damage off course but i did it without needing healing

NOW that certainly won't be the case in Ultimate warrior difficulty
Last edited by Commander Hitman2b; Jan 30 @ 5:05pm
Spiravit Jan 30 @ 8:47pm 
I just beat Lu Bu to get his horse. I agree that his health is excessive. It should be decreased by about 15-20% and I'm sure it'll feel less ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. His moves are fine though, besides when he's on his horse. Everything about fighting him is mostly just downloading his moveset and to start bullying him with parries and dodges. Also equipping palm strike.
I lowkey felt so cool fighting him.

Watching all my allies fall instantly while I perfect dodge and parry things. Seeing my health drop to almost 0 after getting hit just once. It was an adrenaline rush, and I loved that it felt like an actual boss fight.

Something else I liked is that it encouraged me to really think about my build. What enhancements are on my weapon, which accessories do I have equipped, what items am I bringing?

Definitely can see why some people hated it, but it was seriously the Lu Bu fight I've always wanted. Bringing him down made me feel like the hero everybody kept saying I was.
Originally posted by Tiefling:
I lowkey felt so cool fighting him.

Watching all my allies fall instantly while I perfect dodge and parry things. Seeing my health drop to almost 0 after getting hit just once. It was an adrenaline rush, and I loved that it felt like an actual boss fight.

Something else I liked is that it encouraged me to really think about my build. What enhancements are on my weapon, which accessories do I have equipped, what items am I bringing?

Definitely can see why some people hated it, but it was seriously the Lu Bu fight I've always wanted. Bringing him down made me feel like the hero everybody kept saying I was.
His health dependent banter is the cherry on top.
the part that i think is truly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is the fact that he's invincible in the last phase and you have a limited time to break his fortitude before it fully regens, that was straight up ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and if i didn't have rage mode saved up i don't think i would have beat him. that last phase was not fun, just frustrating. i beat him but i never want to play that part again. the rest of the fight was hard but doable without cheesing the systems
My problem is that the fist time you see him Cao Cao commits toaster bath if you fight him. and the second time he is the worlds greatest coward just runs away from you on his horse so you dont get to fight. why cant the game just let me fight him already?
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