Lu Bu's fight on Xiapi is just plain BS

[Gamer de esquerda]

Edit: Forget about, he is easy, my bad.

[Cyriss]

I agree, after the third failed attempt i just raged quit then uninstalled.

[저지]

the problem is, he recharges the shield in the god of war mode constantly. you simply cant damage him anymore. Not sure how its supposed to be done, I guess I just overlook a mechanic.

[Gamer de esquerda]

Originally posted by 저지:

the problem is, he recharges the shield in the god of war mode constantly. you simply cant damage him anymore. Not sure how its supposed to be done, I guess I just overlook a mechanic.

You have to break his shield before he uses the "true musou", you won't cause any damage to his life, only to his 7 or 8 shields, which is absurdely difficult, especially since he's spamming unparriable attacks all the time that are also hard to evade

I restarted the whole battle, put the game on easy mode, and even then the fight was not a walk in the park. That last part was just absurdely bad designed

[Action Man]

Just beat him myself. I have to say that yea, that's one hell of a skill check. You have to drain his fortitude (is that the name for the shields above the health bar?) in one of his War Rages. If he uses his Musou and reactivates, he gets his shields back.

I evaded most of his attacks to generate bravery and unleash battle arts on him. I parried him occasionally, but he would also parry back. That was funny the first few times - OoT flashbacks, haha.

I've been using the Twin Pikes - I'm not sure if those hit harder or not, or maybe it's because they do fewer hits so it seems like they hit harder.

I'm playing on the default mode (Wanderer? Not Hero.). Not looking forward to that on Hero mode...

[Harassment by Moderation]

I beat him on UItimate Warrior mode (not the challenge associated with it though. Not sure what Koei was thinking with that ♥♥♥♥). You really need to learn his attack pattern, know which attacks can be perfect parried and which need to be dodged. His arrow attack NEEDS to be perfect dodged on either the first or second volley by dodging TOWARD him. NOT backward, and NOT to the side. Make sure you have an interrupting Brave Attack ready to use at that point.

His regular sweeping attacks when he's just swinging at you with his Halberd can be perfect parried (but not when he's critically low on health, obviously). The key thing to remember when he does reach that stage though is that you can't be afraid to go on the offensive. The move that killed me the most was his absolutely BS multipart projectile shockwave attack and his musou, of course. When he does his musou, just get as far back as possible then return. It isn't the worth the risk trying to perfect dodge his musou.

This won't be of much help to those who haven't yet reached NG+, but if you can manage to acquire the Halberd weapon style on Ultimate Warrior, it will help immensely with fighting Lu Bu. Fight fire with fire, and some such. And lastly, I heard that having a Counter Brave Attack slotted somewhere (doesn't matter the weapon) helps a bunch too, because it's basically a free swing on the dude without worrying about getting hit yourself.

[Silvarsson]

Originally posted by Gamer de esquerda:

Seriously, not in any of the previous DW he is that ridiculous

Not only because of his moveset or because you have to fight him entirely on your own (your allies fall all in seconds), but because his HP bar is absurd.

Even when you're near killing him he'll activate a "god war rage mode" where you'll do next to no damage to him while he unleashes only unblockable moves. Seriously, I was loving the game until this point, but what a pathetic design fight.

I'm about 8 levels above the recommended level for this fight and got a grade 5 +11 sword

Save up 3 mushu bars for the rage during the fight for that point. Let him just burn one sequence, use his mushu, and then when he pops his 2nd bubble back, go rage mode, just chian him, and block and you'll easy win this.

Anyway, yeah. His health bar is bs. It's not fun. Better to have made him hit even harder, but with 1/2 the hp bar.

[Δ]

an easy way of handling any officers that spam rage mode is to use your own. You have infinite bravery and are invincible during yours, battle arts shred fortitude especially the more expensive ones

[Doomvora]

When the fortitude bar lights up they get staggered when hit, just don't swing until the fortitude bar lights up.

[Bigamo]

Originally posted by Gamer de esquerda:

Seriously, not in any of the previous DW he is that ridiculous

Not only because of his moveset or because you have to fight him entirely on your own (your allies fall all in seconds), but because his HP bar is absurd.

Even when you're near killing him he'll activate a "god war rage mode" where you'll do next to no damage to him while he unleashes only unblockable moves. Seriously, I was loving the game until this point, but what a pathetic design fight.

I'm about 8 levels above the recommended level for this fight and got a grade 5 +11 sword

Indeed, i was on Hero, had to put historian only for that fight.

[Shield]

Man have you tried doing the large force battles for some of the endings? I didn't find Lu Bu too much a struggle but those mfs had me tilted

[Icevail]

Its Lu Bu, he's meant to be difficult to deal with, that's how he has always been in this franchise, he's OP for a reason, he needs to be OP for a reason, and you need to take it like big boy and bite the pillow, the game teaches you very early on that he is a force to be reckoned with.

And instead of blocking his attacks, try parrying those instead, you'll find him quite easy to deal with once you learn to parry his attacks, you can parry every single attack, aside the one that requires SP skills to interrupt, or his rage musou attacks.

Equip yourself with a weapon that has improved parry range and the fight becomes a lot easier if you have issues with the timing.

Welcome to Dynasty Warriors.

[Gamer de esquerda]

Originally posted by Icevail:

Welcome to Dynasty Warriors.

"Welcome to Dynasty Warriors", said you to the guy who have been playing Dynasty Warriors since Dynasty Warriors 4

And not in ANY Dynasty Warriors Lu Bu is not even REMOTELY NEARLY as hard as he is in this game as a NON-OPTIONAL BOSS

Dynasty Warriors 4 is probably the hardest, but if you follow the strategies, you can just make him flee. Even in Dong Zhuo's path, it's doable. Same for Dynasty Warriors 5 and the others (if I'm not mistaking, he's quite nerfed in Xiapi in most games, or you have missions that weaken him, but not on Hulao, where he is optional). In DW9 he is ridiculously weak.

It seems it is you that never played the Battle of Xiapi in any other Dynasty Warriors

[Kacho]

Originally posted by Icevail:

Its Lu Bu, he's meant to be difficult to deal with, that's how he has always been in this franchise, he's OP for a reason, he needs to be OP for a reason, and you need to take it like big boy and bite the pillow, the game teaches you very early on that he is a force to be reckoned with.

And instead of blocking his attacks, try parrying those instead, you'll find him quite easy to deal with once you learn to parry his attacks, you can parry every single attack, aside the one that requires SP skills to interrupt, or his rage musou attacks.

Equip yourself with a weapon that has improved parry range and the fight becomes a lot easier if you have issues with the timing.

Welcome to Dynasty Warriors.

Terrible, fake elitist post.

"durrr it wasn't hard for me. Learn 2 block."

This is Dynasty Warriors, not Dark Souls.

The problem is the boss fight is poorly designed. His health doesn't need to be insanely high. It just makes things take longer for no good reason. Either have the player do more than chip damage, or decrease his health pool so it isn't some 10 minute battle of attrition.

The game doesn't even properly prepare the player for the fight. The whole game you're wrecking enemy officers with little thought while being told to run away from Lu Bu. This is tradition of course. If you try to go toe to toe with Lu Bu at Hu Lao Gate in any of the previous games you will usually get squashed. But in past games, Lu Bu didn't have movesets to learn or parry timings to nail. In Origins you go into the final battle with Lu Bu with zero of the required knowledge. So you're not only supposed to learn on the fly, but also whittle down his insanely large health pool while executing parries and dodges somewhat flawlessly. That's a lot to ask from your average player.

[Icevail]

DW9 sucks for more than one reason, it went into wrong direction in so many levels with its designs that I don't even consider it to be a dynasty warriors game, but some fubar fan project that someone pieced up together from scraps someone thought would make it look cool, and sorry to break it to you, but I've been playing these games since the dreadful 'kao kao' english dub of DW3, and believe me, you don't want to hear how the names are butchered in that game.

[Gamer de esquerda]

Originally posted by Icevail:

DW9 sucks for more than one reason, it went into wrong direction in so many levels with its designs that I don't even consider it to be a dynasty warriors game, but some fubar fan project that someone pieced up together from scraps someone thought would make it look cool, and sorry to break it to you, but I've been playing these games since the dreadful 'kao kao' english dub of DW3. :sharonsmile:

And yet you seem to not remember a single "Battle of Xiapi" from any of those games :)