Battle of Changban (Shu) on UW unnecessarily hard?

[Eut]

So clearing the stage normally is no problem really but if you want to beat Cao Cao it seems to be a long slog? Dude is surrounded by absolutely maxed courage officers (like why are ALL of them maxed out?) and you deal no damage against Cao Cao (how come he is at least twice as tanky as Lu Bu?). Lu Bu's health was fine but this just pushes it way too much and that's not considering the BS max courage officers he got.

[Vahn]

Originally posted by Eut:

So clearing the stage normally is no problem really but if you want to beat Cao Cao it seems to be a long slog? Dude is surrounded by absolutely maxed courage officers (like why are ALL of them maxed out?) and you deal no damage against Cao Cao (how come he is at least twice as tanky as Lu Bu?). Lu Bu's health was fine but this just pushes it way too much and that's not considering the BS max courage officers he got.

if you are doing fate change its better to do it in a lesser difficulty. some fate change are near impossible in UW like the ones in WU and btw UW is meant to be unfair.

[✨Nutkun7993✨]

Fate Alter opponent on UW has 100 rank or higher stats according to game file.

In Changban Shu case. All of units in Cao Cao's large force is consider Fate Alter opponent. It also has special function where stopping grand tactic or disable his large force also inflict no debuff to courage to surrounding officer or make Cao Cao any easier.

[Vahn]

This is doable though and I did it via halberd, I have a way of using halberd against huge. But its not worth the effort as there is no special reward.

[Eut]

Originally posted by Vahn:

Originally posted by Eut:

So clearing the stage normally is no problem really but if you want to beat Cao Cao it seems to be a long slog? Dude is surrounded by absolutely maxed courage officers (like why are ALL of them maxed out?) and you deal no damage against Cao Cao (how come he is at least twice as tanky as Lu Bu?). Lu Bu's health was fine but this just pushes it way too much and that's not considering the BS max courage officers he got.

if you are doing fate change its better to do it in a lesser difficulty. some fate change are near impossible in UW like the ones in WU and btw UW is meant to be unfair.

Its not meant to be unfair because difficulty has never been the main point of a warriors game, and not a single battle I have played felt unfair and this one is just out of place (its not even the whole stage, it literally is just cao cao and his goons). There is zero chance I should ever be doing less than a fifth of my damage against Lu Bu, against Cao Cao especially at max rank. It is poorly thought out

[Eut]

Originally posted by Vahn:

This is doable though and I did it via halberd, I have a way of using halberd against huge. But its not worth the effort as there is no special reward.

Yeah I did it as well but it was a huge pain. It was boring as hell as well because you are doing zero damage. Devs think meatshields are fun to play against lmao

[Vahn]

Originally posted by Eut:

Originally posted by Vahn:

This is doable though and I did it via halberd, I have a way of using halberd against huge. But its not worth the effort as there is no special reward.

Yeah I did it as well but it was a huge pain. It was boring as hell as well because you are doing zero damage. Devs think meatshields are fun to play against lmao

i dont have any issue with this though coz u can play it in any difficulty and get same result. its not a challenge where u get rewards. I like how its soo hard also but its a player choice weather u want that route. The game is already easy as is so i have no issue with this. Changing someones fate or changing history should come with a huge challenge is my mind set on this but u have the option to make it easier lol.

[✨Nutkun7993✨]

Originally posted by Vahn:

Originally posted by Eut:

Yeah I did it as well but it was a huge pain. It was boring as hell as well because you are doing zero damage. Devs think meatshields are fun to play against lmao

i dont have any issue with this though coz u can play it in any difficulty and get same result. its not a challenge where u get rewards. I like how its soo hard also but its a player choice weather u want that route. The game is already easy as is so i have no issue with this. Changing someones fate or changing history should come with a huge challenge is my mind set on this but u have the option to make it easier lol.

Some people can't make up their mind whatever they want challenge or want it easy. Calling everything unfair the moment they don't have a good time or just blaming everything else being boring to make themselves look cool

Like I did it. With a Sword. Not even bother with Helbred because its weapon make a game too easy and boring, and any brainless player can use it effectively as it has no learning curve whatsoever. But I would never go say it's unfair when I pick a road myself

[Vahn]

Originally posted by ✨Nutkun7993✨:

Originally posted by Vahn:

i dont have any issue with this though coz u can play it in any difficulty and get same result. its not a challenge where u get rewards. I like how its soo hard also but its a player choice weather u want that route. The game is already easy as is so i have no issue with this. Changing someones fate or changing history should come with a huge challenge is my mind set on this but u have the option to make it easier lol.

Some people can't make up their mind whatever they want challenge or want it easy. Calling everything unfair the moment they don't have a good time or just blaming everything else being boring to make themselves look cool

Like I did it. With a Sword. Not even bother with Helbred because its weapon make a game too easy and boring, and any brainless player can use it effectively as it has no learning curve whatsoever. But I would never go say it's unfair when I pick a road myself

who is making themselves look cool? coz it does feel unfair to me and thats subjective, Also the sword does not even have a learning curve its one of the easiest weapon to use.

[✨Nutkun7993✨]

Originally posted by Vahn:

Originally posted by ✨Nutkun7993✨:

Some people can't make up their mind whatever they want challenge or want it easy. Calling everything unfair the moment they don't have a good time or just blaming everything else being boring to make themselves look cool

Like I did it. With a Sword. Not even bother with Helbred because its weapon make a game too easy and boring, and any brainless player can use it effectively as it has no learning curve whatsoever. But I would never go say it's unfair when I pick a road myself

who is making themselves look cool? coz it does feel unfair to me and thats subjective, Also the sword does not even have a learning curve its one of the easiest weapon to use.

Easiest to use does not equal being most effective.

Helbred is easymode and clear with it on anything does not gain you any bragging rights nor personal challenge. And I find anyone that use it and use to argue with anything about a game being easy boring myself

[Vahn]

Originally posted by ✨Nutkun7993✨:

Originally posted by Vahn:

who is making themselves look cool? coz it does feel unfair to me and thats subjective, Also the sword does not even have a learning curve its one of the easiest weapon to use.

Easiest to use does not equal being most effective.

Helbred is easymode and clear with it on anything does not gain you any bragging rights nor personal challenge. And I find anyone that use it and use to argue with anything about a game being easy boring myself

I did that map only once in UW coz it was hard to change fate, forgive me for not trying again with a different weapon. Halberd is not even on my fav weapon list, its C blade, gauntlets, wheels, spear, staff and lance. Some people just try to make themselves look cool by looking down on players using a strong weapons wew.

[✨Nutkun7993✨]

Originally posted by Vahn:

Originally posted by ✨Nutkun7993✨:

Easiest to use does not equal being most effective.

Helbred is easymode and clear with it on anything does not gain you any bragging rights nor personal challenge. And I find anyone that use it and use to argue with anything about a game being easy boring myself

I did that map only once in UW coz it was hard to change fate, forgive me for not trying again with a different weapon. Halberd is not even on my fav weapon list, its C blade, gauntlets, wheels, spear, staff and lance. Some people just try to make themselves look cool by looking down on players using a strong weapons wew.

Nothing wrong on looking down on people because it's true isn't it?

[Vahn]

Originally posted by ✨Nutkun7993✨:

Originally posted by Vahn:

I did that map only once in UW coz it was hard to change fate, forgive me for not trying again with a different weapon. Halberd is not even on my fav weapon list, its C blade, gauntlets, wheels, spear, staff and lance. Some people just try to make themselves look cool by looking down on players using a strong weapons wew.

Nothing wrong on looking down on people because it's true isn't it?

u just contradicted yourself.

[✨Nutkun7993✨]

Originally posted by Vahn:

Originally posted by ✨Nutkun7993✨:

Nothing wrong on looking down on people because it's true isn't it?

u just contradicted yourself.

Look I'm not gonna bother with you any longer say whatever you want. Helbred is easymode anyone would agree on that, every single tierlist agree on that. No need to feel salty being called out man.

[Yian Yan]

Originally posted by Eut:

Originally posted by Vahn:

if you are doing fate change its better to do it in a lesser difficulty. some fate change are near impossible in UW like the ones in WU and btw UW is meant to be unfair.

Its not meant to be unfair because difficulty has never been the main point of a warriors game, and not a single battle I have played felt unfair and this one is just out of place (its not even the whole stage, it literally is just cao cao and his goons). There is zero chance I should ever be doing less than a fifth of my damage against Lu Bu, against Cao Cao especially at max rank. It is poorly thought out

Ultimate Warrior is indeed not meant to be unfair and it really isn't. The fate altered clears on UW do seem to be intended as the most difficult challenges in the game but the devs have not made them necessary for any achievements or unlocks which is pretty kind of them.

[Vahn]

Originally posted by ✨Nutkun7993✨:

Originally posted by Vahn:

u just contradicted yourself.

Look I'm not gonna bother with you any longer say whatever you want. Helbred is easymode anyone would agree on that, every single tierlist agree on that. No need to feel salty being called out man.

i didnt disagree with you on this coz it is true halberd is easy mode and is on another level compared to all the weapons. I just dont go around looking down on players who use them coz its fun or strong. Games are meant to be played how you wanna play it. And called out? for what? using a weapon in the game? get off your high horse.