worst table in any seasons so far....

[AntzinPantz]

After playing ELDORADO:CITY OF GOLD.... i have to say, that i have never before played a table that felt like there was simply nothing redeemable about it. I simply don't see what would have made this table a table of choice to put into a season. The sounds are obnoxious , the layout dull and uninviting. After trying a few rounds to see if i could get into it. I said screw this... I can't see what would make anyone even want to put this sad excuse for a table in any package. This of course, is my opinion and someone else's mileage may vary :) So, this got me curious, are there any tables , strictly speaking in PA, that anyone just can't stomach to spend one second even playing? :)

[peremptor]

Yeah never played it. Just saw this video on the table and I got to say... it does look pretty boring

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuZPzexp1A4

[AntzinPantz]

The guy in that video talks like it's some kind of awesome treat. I love a lot of the older style pinball games for no other reason than they are just simple old school designs. Good fun can be had on some of the older style, but if eldorado is considered a classic, well, i'm at a loss for words, because to me, it just screams dud.

[peremptor]

Well it's a pretty rare table, especially the version he's showing off from waht he's saying, so I guess it has more value as a collectible than an actual fun table to play.

[AntzinPantz]

I suppose from that perspective it's worth something more to some more than others, but if it's not fun, pfft why bother lol :D

[all2easy]

It's one of my favorites but as you rightly said "This of course, is my opinion".

[-=UBeR=-rqper]

I find Eldorado fun to play. And trying over and over to get those targets is fun.
But then again, I'm not the person that can drop the targets anytime I want.

Just looking for a quick pinball game out of this, rather avoiding the ones with story lines and tension building graphical intermezzo's.

You could equally say 3 band billiart is boring without the graphic animations, story line and mini games to reward the player.

"are there any tables , strictly speaking in PA, that anyone just can't stomach to spend one second even playing?"

Yesterday Indeed I had started the Adams family only to exit it before my ball reached my flippers, could not stand the idea of spending time on it. I 'm sure it is a good game to many but for the moment I can't just bring it up to spend time on this type of pinball game.

Strangely I did my best in the real arcade to like it for the top table it is but felt neutral.

[phoerber]

I love topics like this because it really illustrates the divide between pinballs of old and today's modern tables. The reality is, back in the day when solid state first hit pinball: It was mind-blowing. There was a time when games like El Dorado were bad a55. Add the low production run, Ed K's last design for Gottlieb, and all of a sudden that table starts to take on some level of mystique.

I never got to play one back in the day, but I kinda like El Dorado's feel of an old Gottlieb EM drop target fiesta in a System 80 package. Whatever.. I love pinball and can find some redeeming quality in almost every game, even the pre-flipper "skill" games. For me it comes down to the "fun" factor, and its those "fun" tables through the years have kept my interest. Medieval Madness is still a blast to play, and sits ready to go in my home office whenever I need a diversion....

Pete in Seattle

[peremptor]

Yeah i'd have to give it a go before I give my final verdict on it :) It just doesn't really look that interesting at first sight. I'm hankering for some sorcerer now that I got reminded that table isn't in TPA :(,

[Paratech2008]

I prefer the 'original' El Dorado, I don't like the Marvel Superhero Gottlieb tables (Hulk, Spider Man, etc). I also don't like the table that has the rubber ball. The one car game?

[RobertMeans]

I love drop targets, but El Dorado's layout makes no sense. Absolutely no flow at all and nasty drains. Compare that with the genius of Genie.

[locksley777]

Yup, liking it. Not a favorite but definitely a table I return to for a game or two together with Genie.

Even though it is very odd and a bit crazy I can not find any real pleasure in Goin Nuts; because it feels like I am mostly flaying around and it is hard to imagine where the shots will end up; don't mind having it in TPA though, how would I otherwise know it is not a table I want to play, heh.

Back to Eldorado: Tight tilt and a stop and shoot table. You wont gain anything playing a flow like style, unless you are a true master at it.

Will be incredible fun seeing how the new flipper physics 3.+ will change how we play this table!

BUG! There seems to be a bug with the award Get 1 mill on one ball, I got it for 100k maybe. So either it is for 100k or they just forgot to set up a zero.

Wicked outlanes, stay away; combining safe shots and gently nudging to avoid. If you end up there it is very skillfull nudging that can eventually save you.

Cheers!

[AntzinPantz]

Loving reading everyones responses here.Thanks for chiming in and adding to the discussions! Keep 'em comin' :D

[dave]

The new sticky flipper physics and better textures could definitely help this table hold its own against other more attractive and more obviously playable tables. Not sure Farsight could do much about the rough sounds, short of completely replacing them from a high-quality sample library.

[Common Sense]

I think the table is in the line up due to it's relative rarity coupled with the history of the layout of which this is both one of several and the very last iteration. That and the good people at Farsight happened to be able to get their hands on one, similar to the rest of the less then typical machines and a fact that i wish people wouldn't be so casual about ignoring wholesale. ( There's not an infinite supply of these things left to go around and when they're gone, they are gone forever )

From everything i've been able to glean online it was part of Gottlieb's portfolio of budget titles i.e. stocking filler for route operators whom needed a new game, any game, to add to their line up and machines like these gave them a game or perhaps even two for less money.This practice was reportedly fairly prevalent during varying times in the 80s due to all kinds of fluctuating market circumstances.

If you care enough to read up on what arcades in general and pinball in particular went through during that decade i assure you you won't look at it the same again and you may be surprised that Bally and Williams did the exact same thing regardless of what majority opinion about their titles may be, they all made stocking filler at various points in time.

Disregarding it's pedigree and looking solely at what Gottlieb had been up to in years prior, say a Spirit, Devil's Dare, Alien Hunter or even a Black Hole... Sure this is probably not a title that holds up all that well with it's contemporaries, i certainly don't care for it much as a player but i don't hate it either considering i know this went out the door to make money and not specifically to be the best game ever.

At the end of the day it's pinball and some folks are bound to love it to bits, so in that sense there's no best or worse to be had in any of the seasons other then everyone's personal taste and preferences.

[Bruno]

Originally posted by leannaray:

My 2 cents worth: I love El Dorado and play it often. I'm influenced in my enthusiasm for El Dorado by the rich history of the table - the same layout was used in the Canada Dry table, the Gold Strike table, the Lucky Strike table, Solar City, Target Alpha, and various EMs called El Dorado. IMO, FarSight chose the best version to represent its phenomenal success.

There got to be at least one table you don't like on PA. Don't tell me you like them all.