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DonkeyJim Jun 26, 2018 @ 4:28pm
Tales Of The Arabian Nights (Update) !
If you have not purchased Season 1 or the Launch Pack, this table will Not be available to you after June 30th, 2018.
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BigSilverHotdog Jun 26, 2018 @ 11:33pm 
So this changes 3 days before the deadline. Nice.
Monochromatic Jun 27, 2018 @ 3:31am 
Yeah, that is hugely unfair for everyone that was told “if you own TOTAN, you will have it after June 30th” and then MANY people asked “what does that mean?” And it was abundantly clear that if you simply have TPA installed, the free TOTAN was yours to keep.

Who’s decision was this?

Not everyone that was told that they own TOTAN will see this message in time. FarSight and WMS will need to reconsider this decision.

I guess this is yet another reason to grab Season 1 above all else... but this does not make it fair to everyone that specifically asked if they owned TOTAN by simply having TPA installed.

I know they probably don’t care but WMS is fostering A LOT of ill will towards their brand. People hate FarSight for a bunch of fair reasons but I feel like FarSight is also stuck in the crossfire of this failed licensing agreement. WMS is probably pulling a lot of strings and doing a poor job at looking like the good guys.
Last edited by Monochromatic; Jun 27, 2018 @ 3:37am
Originally posted by Monochromatic:
Yeah, that is hugely unfair for everyone that was told “if you own TOTAN, you will have it after June 30th” and then MANY people asked “what does that mean?” And it was abundantly clear that if you simply have TPA installed, the free TOTAN was yours to keep.
Who’s decision was this?
It sounds like their licensor's - cf https://steamcommunity.com/app/238260/discussions/0/1694920442963480939/?ctp=3#c1728701877474566509

People hate FarSight for a bunch of fair reasons but I feel like FarSight is also stuck in the crossfire of this failed licensing agreement. WMS is probably pulling a lot of strings and doing a poor job at looking like the good guys.
FarSight had a WMS license for a decade now they released Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection in 2008. It's normal for licenses to have a limited duration with an option to renew.
Not everyone that was told that they own TOTAN will see this message in time. FarSight and WMS will need to reconsider this decision.
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I know they probably don’t care but WMS is fostering A LOT of ill will towards their brand.
Aaand that's probably the problem right there. See, in 2013 WMS wase acquired by Scientific Games Corporation and fully merged into that company in 2016.
As to why SCG doesn't want to (heh) play ball? Your guess is as good as mine. Perhaps SGC wants to use the licenses elsewhere, or they're just not interested in doing anything with the WMS pinball IP's
Eggiwex Jun 27, 2018 @ 7:46am 
Oh man, after I heard TOTAN will stay in your library I bought some single tables from Season One. What a waste of money it would be to pay again for this Season when I aready own almost all tables I want from it. At least let me buy the single table. Just before I've read this message I bought again A single Table pack from S1. Sad!
Eggiwex Jun 27, 2018 @ 7:57am 
Would it be possible to get a refund for all the Season 1 tables i bought as single table packs so that I can buy the whole Season One again?
jbrodack Jun 27, 2018 @ 10:12am 
Buy the launch pack of 4 tables for $8.99. Tales of Arabian Nights and theater of magic are some of my favorites so that's probably what I'll be getting.
Eggiwex Jun 27, 2018 @ 10:19am 
Ok didn't know that was the Launch Pack. Thought it was some kickstarter stuff. Actually I bought Theater of Magic before but didn't noticed it's called Launch Pack and that the TOTAN table will be inside. Thanks
Eggiwex Jun 27, 2018 @ 10:34am 
I usually totally ignore sticky threads on Steam for any news. It was just a coincidence I saw it. Maybe someone should post it in the default section. Or FarSight should put it into a news popup before some people will get angry.
Last edited by Eggiwex; Jun 27, 2018 @ 10:35am
DonkeyJim Jun 27, 2018 @ 1:16pm 
We have a solution. I would suggest that anyone with a grievence in regards to being given the wrong information about TOTAN should contact our support email: support@farsightstudios.com
Our support team is pretty cool and I think they might be fairly accomadating to people who were effected.
ilveropaolone Jun 27, 2018 @ 11:56pm 
i have Nougat all season but directory in game at 29.90€ nor on Steam at 34,00. but i have already some single tables and i have no discount! be attention!
Zorz Jun 28, 2018 @ 10:59am 
Originally posted by Kusn Jimmy:
If you have not purchased Season 1 or the Launch Pack, this table will Not be available to you after June 30th, 2018.
i don't understand, i downloaded the game yesterday and the mentioned table is a free table which is my only table i own ingame..

so u want to say u want to take away my only one table? oO

if yes, i can delete the game next days? oO
The Fifth Horseman Jun 28, 2018 @ 11:33am 
Originally posted by Zorz:
which is my only table i own ingame..
You don't really "own" it any more than you "own" a rental car.
so u want to say u want to take away my only one table? oO
They don't want to, they're forced to.

if yes, i can delete the game next days? oO
AFAIK there will be another free table to replace that one.
Last edited by The Fifth Horseman; Jun 28, 2018 @ 11:34am
Matt Beeching Jun 28, 2018 @ 12:00pm 
Originally posted by Zorz:
i don't understand, i downloaded the game yesterday and the mentioned table is a free table which is my only table i own ingame..

so u want to say u want to take away my only one table? oO

if yes, i can delete the game next days? oO

Better late than never! That table has been free-to-play since 2013 but you don't currently own it, so yes it will be removed.

Play all the free table trials whilst they're still available and buy the ones you enjoy, but I would strongly recommend at least Season 1 if you have any interest in pinball.
Zorz Jun 28, 2018 @ 12:49pm 
so i can play longer than the first high score if i choose trial version? or how to play MP longer times?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1425475180
Last edited by Zorz; Jun 28, 2018 @ 12:49pm
If you want to play the machines for longer than that, you have to buy them - either the Table Pack the table was released in or the entire season it belongs to.
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