Official Announcement (WMS)

[Kusn Jimmy]

Our longstanding licenses for the Williams and Bally pinball trademarks will finally come to an end on June 30th, 2018. Therefore, after this date tables from these manufacturers will no longer be offered for sale within the Pinball Arcade. However, customers who purchased any of these tables prior to the deadline will continue to own them and have access to them within the Pinball Arcade, and we will continue to support them as we do the other tables in our collection. This change will affect all of our devices and platforms.

So if you’ve ever been interested in owning these great tables, please purchase them now, before they disappear!

FarSight will continue to release new tables for the Pinball Arcade. We are excited to announce that Season 8 will launch later this summer and will feature all of the recent Stern tables in Stern Pinball Arcade along with several new tables.

We’d like to sincerely thank all of our customers and fans over the past decade. Your amazing support of our game has helped build the Pinball Arcade into the greatest pinball simulation of all time. Pinball forever!

[Pinballwiz45b]

I knew this would happen sooner or later.

Seriously. This is your last chance (for now, if this is the case) to go get some great pinball.

[MuddyWolf]

Sad news but I'm guessing you feel the same.

Originally posted by Kusn Jimmy:

Our longstanding licenses for the Williams and Bally pinball trademarks will finally come to an end on June 30th, 2018. Therefore, after this date tables from these manufacturers will no longer be offered for sale within the Pinball Arcade.However, customers who purchased any of these tables prior to the deadline will continue to own them and have access to them within the Pinball Arcade, and we will continue to support them as we do the other tables in our collection. This change will affect all of our devices and platforms.

Can you confirm that this goes for all customers?
Including customers that bought the tables (seasons) through Steam instead of in-game.

[MikeFarSight]

Originally posted by MuddyWolf:

Sad news but I'm guessing you feel the same.

Originally posted by Kusn Jimmy:

Our longstanding licenses for the Williams and Bally pinball trademarks will finally come to an end on June 30th, 2018. Therefore, after this date tables from these manufacturers will no longer be offered for sale within the Pinball Arcade.However, customers who purchased any of these tables prior to the deadline will continue to own them and have access to them within the Pinball Arcade, and we will continue to support them as we do the other tables in our collection. This change will affect all of our devices and platforms.

Can you confirm that this goes for all customers?
Including customers that bought the tables (seasons) through Steam instead of in-game.

You keep ownership no matter how you bought it. It just won't be available to purchase after.

[Pinballwiz45b]

Originally posted by MuddyWolf:

Sad news but I'm guessing you feel the same.

Originally posted by Kusn Jimmy:

Our longstanding licenses for the Williams and Bally pinball trademarks will finally come to an end on June 30th, 2018. Therefore, after this date tables from these manufacturers will no longer be offered for sale within the Pinball Arcade.However, customers who purchased any of these tables prior to the deadline will continue to own them and have access to them within the Pinball Arcade, and we will continue to support them as we do the other tables in our collection. This change will affect all of our devices and platforms.

Can you confirm that this goes for all customers?
Including customers that bought the tables (seasons) through Steam instead of in-game.

If you have the Seasons through Steam, you'll still have them. Think of how Zen handled FX2. You'll still have those tables even after FX2 was removed.

EDIT: Mike ninja'ed me.

[MuddyWolf]

Thanks for the quick replies!

[Enkidu]

So they will be available for download, if owned, even after no longer for sale, correct?

[Pinballwiz45b]

Originally posted by Enkidu:

So they will be available for download, if owned, even after no longer for sale, correct?

All the tables will be there, just inaccessible if you don't own them.

[VALIS]

Any sales planned before the expiration date? I already have every table for PC, but I might like to pick them up for Xbox One or PS4 while they're still available.

[dave950lam]

One thing I worry about is will future Stern tables work ok on TPA. Ghostbusters still have the annoying stutters in TPA, while working ok in SPA.

It's a major bummer the Bally/Williams license is ending. Lot of good tables that would be nice to have in TPA. Is there no way to renew?

[Paratech2008]

Originally posted by Pinballwiz45b:

Originally posted by MuddyWolf:

Sad news but I'm guessing you feel the same.



Can you confirm that this goes for all customers?
Including customers that bought the tables (seasons) through Steam instead of in-game.

If you have the Seasons through Steam, you'll still have them. Think of how Zen handled FX2. You'll still have those tables even after FX2 was removed.

EDIT: Mike ninja'ed me.

Zen still hasn't done a great job with the tables transferred over. Some of us have individual tables purchased outside of Steam, such as the Humble Bundles that are still not showing up as the bundles of the tables being owned.

What will happen to those who purchased seasons or individual tables from inside the game? If something happens to Farsight will we still have those tables. What about those sho received tables via Kickstart support?

IMSHO the best tables so far are Williams and Bally tables and we will be missing out on a lot of good tables that will not be supported or added now.

I'm having a difficult time imaging Seasons of Stern and Gottlieb tables being anywhere near the quality of Seasons 1 and 2, and cannot see how this move will be profitable. I don't own Farsight, but as a customer who has seasons 1 through 5 and a few tables from 6 and 7, that is my opinion.

[Enkidu]

Originally posted by Pinballwiz45b:

Originally posted by MuddyWolf:

Sad news but I'm guessing you feel the same.



Can you confirm that this goes for all customers?
Including customers that bought the tables (seasons) through Steam instead of in-game.

If you have the Seasons through Steam, you'll still have them. Think of how Zen handled FX2. You'll still have those tables even after FX2 was removed.

EDIT: Mike ninja'ed me.

If you still have FX2 click on the store page link, it is dead they removed the game, so I cant download the South Park tables should I get a new computer.

Can Kusn Jimmy, MikeFarSight or any other dev confirm if the Wiliams and Bally tables will still be downloadable going forward? thanks guys

[MuddyWolf]

Originally posted by Enkidu:

If you still have FX2 click on the store page link, it is dead they removed the game, so I cant download the South Park tables should I get a new computer.

You don't need the store page if you own the South Park tables in FX2. You can still download the game. It is listed in your library and if you move to another computer, FX2 will still be in your Steam library. You just can't buy the South Park pack anymore. You can still play/install it whenever you want if you own the the pack.

[Enkidu]

oh ok the library thing makes sense, thanks for explaining

[MuddyWolf]

np

[Deane Fox]

Man this sucks, they're literally losing more than half of the tables currently available, and frankly, I'm not all that enthused by what's left. Any chance of a sale emerging before June 30? I'd love to just buy all these but since I only currently own Seasons 1-3, it'd be a large amount of money to drop