quick question bout wall smashing and stealth achievements

[tvh]

i notice if I smash a wall with a guy on the other side it immediately kills him I rather not kill him at all but will that ruin any of the stealth achievements pacifist ghost etc and then theres another guy near by him who sees his dead body immediately does that also have a chance to ruin any of the achievements

is there a way to knock him out instead of killing him? and finally if they are alarmed does that ruin any of the stealth achievements

thank you ahead of time

[Kauldwin]

Killing an enemy with the wall break will negate the Pacifist achievement.

You can have enemies go all the way up to openly hostile on you without losing Foxiest of the Hounds as long as you don't trigger any physical alarms.

[tvh]

Originally posted by Kauldwin:

Killing an enemy with the wall break will negate the Pacifist achievement.

You can have enemies go all the way up to openly hostile on you without losing Foxiest of the Hounds as long as you don't trigger any physical alarms.

is there a way to go through without killing them?

[Comric]

Unfortunately no, you have to wait that the enemy will move from the wall. If it does not ( kof kof !!! someone said Derelict Row ) then you have to find another way if you 're looking to get the " Pacifist " achiev.
Sorry.

[tvh]

Damn it i tried another method to according to someone if you throw objects at it it'll eventually break but when i did it still killed the guy on the other side and saw no damage to the wall

[EolSunder]

you can break walls with grenades, etc which will blow up the wall but simply stun the enemy on the other side. The wall keeps the grenades from killing him. I havent tried it but i'm guessing that other explosives might do the same thing.

[tvh]

Originally posted by EolSunder:

you can break walls with grenades, etc which will blow up the wall but simply stun the enemy on the other side. The wall keeps the grenades from killing him. I havent tried it but i'm guessing that other explosives might do the same thing.

already tried kills them every time

[Comric]

If the wall in question is that of which I had considered ( ie, to the top floor, in the building in ruins in Derelict Row ). You have to go from the ground floor, in the compartment lifts and with a lot of patience and a lot of wooden boxes ( ... and the aug jump ), you'll make it.

[tvh]

Originally posted by Comric:

If the wall in question is that of which I had considered ( ie, to the top floor, in the building in ruins in Derelict Row ). You have to go from the ground floor, in the compartment lifts and with a lot of patience and a lot of wooden boxes ( ... and the aug jump ), you'll make it.

that exactly what i did but used 3 dumpsters 1 tall box and4 freem barrels by thhe ens only meeded a couple it was a pain in the ass and required a lot of patience XD I'd screenshot it but idk if i can post in here lol

[Comric]

Forget the dumpsters and uses only wooden crates are lighter and for the last phase of the climb you will need a little luck and an object that can be launched with more lightness.
The large crate and dumpsters you can use it to climb up to the first level and then only use small crates because the space for maneuver is serious, to increase the stability of the crates on the iron trellises, supports the crates so that the base seems a rhombus. ( do not place them in a parallel manner on trellises, square base, I do not know if I explained well )
Then, between the vertical iron trellises attached to the walls, in the center just below each upper level there are protrusions, use them to your advantage.
5 or 6 crates should be sufficient, a lot of patience and many savegames and you can do it.
Doing this way, you get Trailblazer 400 xp points, then on top if I remember correctly there are two enemies, a rifle and a cell phone.

[tvh]

Originally posted by Comric:

Forget the dumpsters and uses only wooden crates are lighter and for the last phase of the climb you will need a little luck and an object that can be launched with more lightness.
The large crate and dumpsters you can use it to climb up to the first level and then only use small crates because the space for maneuver is serious, to increase the stability of the crates on the iron trellises, supports the crates so that the base seems a rhombus. ( do not place them in a parallel manner on trellises, square base, I do not know if I explained well )
Then, between the vertical iron trellises attached to the walls, in the center just below each upper level there are protrusions, use them to your advantage.
5 or 6 crates should be sufficient, a lot of patience and many savegames and you can do it.
Doing this way, you get Trailblazer 400 xp points, then on top if I remember correctly there are two enemies, a rifle and a cell phone.

well the think was there wasnt many boxes at all only 12 were in area 1 vroke the other i used as support the the barrels wouldn't fall in between the rails and stacking with barrels and jumping with them at least for me was easier to move and jump with

[EolSunder]

well i use grenades all the time on walls with people behind them and never have I killed one of them, so don't quite know what your doing.

[tvh]

wish i were that lucky but no matter wher i throw them it always kills them i tried so many different ways for over an hour not once did they survive so I gave up and did it the hard way it just my luck

I bet you though on 2nd playthrogh when I kill every1 it''l knock themm out instead of killing them that just my luck lol XD

[duEprocEss]

Originally posted by tvh:

I bet you though on 2nd playthrogh when I kill every1 it''l knock themm out instead of killing them that just my luck lol XD

Haha. You know damn whell that's exactly what will happen!

[Starsong]

Originally posted by tvh:

i notice if I smash a wall with a guy on the other side it immediately kills him I rather not kill him at all but will that ruin any of the stealth achievements pacifist ghost etc and then theres another guy near by him who sees his dead body immediately does that also have a chance to ruin any of the achievements

is there a way to knock him out instead of killing him? and finally if they are alarmed does that ruin any of the stealth achievements

thank you ahead of time

You can fire an unsilenced weapon which will alert the mob on the other side of the wall and he'll begin patrolling. Wait about 10 seconds and then break the wall to avoid killing him.

[tvh]

Originally posted by Leiana Nova:

Originally posted by tvh:

i notice if I smash a wall with a guy on the other side it immediately kills him I rather not kill him at all but will that ruin any of the stealth achievements pacifist ghost etc and then theres another guy near by him who sees his dead body immediately does that also have a chance to ruin any of the achievements

is there a way to knock him out instead of killing him? and finally if they are alarmed does that ruin any of the stealth achievements

thank you ahead of time

You can fire an unsilenced weapon which will alert the mob on the other side of the wall and he'll begin patrolling. Wait about 10 seconds and then break the wall to avoid killing him.

I've already tried that shot every gun i had placed explosives and not even so much as a huh lol o I Almost forgot somewhere iread you can throw heavy things at the wall to destroy it without killing them so i did but guess what happens instead it kills them through the wall without damaging the wall at all. ... lol I'm just dealing with the fact it won't let me have my way

and now a new problem it won't
Give me the throwdown achievement no matter what do I'll prob just continue without it XD ive tried it over 20 times already tired of his speech lol