Deus Ex - Human Revolution: Director's Cut free upgrade request for all SE owners

[NightOwlDelta]

First of all, I haven't got a single clue where to put this request on the forum so I'm putting in off-topic. I doubt I gonna get much response from the discussion board of the game itself so that's another reason I'm putting it here.

Anyway, to the topic: As you can already suggest from the title I am requesting that all owners of the 'Standard Edition' get an free upgrade for the 'Director's Cut Edition' of Deus Ex HR. I recently discovered that the 'SE' version is no longer available on the Steam Store and that got me wondering about the DC Edition that is currently available on the store.

I know some people already made this kind of request and never had a proper response back, but then again, trying doesn't hurt nor is it bad. The thing is, if I want to buy the DC Edition while I have the SE already, it's pretty much a rip-off. You pay for the game twice. Plus I have the 'SE' version for a long time, like a couple of years...

[ballomatic]

SE is not available for a long time, and I don't hear about free upgrade to DC.

[Vassago Rain]

The upgrade was available for free for a very long time. If you didn't upgrade in that time, tough luck. They're also not required, in any way, to offer an upgrade. It was a nice freebie for the fans, which they kept extending.

You can actually buy the regular version, but not on steam. Have to find a third party site that sells steam codes. Even amazon used to stock both DC and SE versions in equal quantity at one point.

Of course you'll be paying for the game twice. That's uhh, kinda what happens with 'game of the year' or 'director's cut' versions of anything.

DC has nothing to do with SE. It's almost entirely Eidos' work. They didn't even build it on the PC version of HR that Nixxes made.

[casualsailor]

So, you wanted to play the original game and the developers offered it to you for a price that you found agreeable. You exchanged your money for the developers product and both of you were satisified.

The developers have incurred considerable expense to update the game graphics, integrate the DLC and revamp the boss fights. They are offering this new product for a substancial savings ($19.99 vs $59.99).

You wish to play their new game but you don't want to pay for the priviledge and the developers find your offer (or lack there of) unacceptable.

Why do you believe they should want to give you their game in return for none of your money? How could that possibly provide them a return on the investment that they made to update the original game?

I don't understand your logic. You don't give away your labor for free so why do you think the developers should?

[NightOwlDelta]

Originally posted by casualsailor:

So, you wanted to play the original game and the developers offered it to you for a price that you found agreeable. You exchanged your money for the developers product and both of you were satisified.

The developers have incurred considerable expense to update the game graphics, integrate the DLC and revamp the boss fights. They are offering this new product for a substancial savings ($19.99 vs $59.99).

You wish to play their new game but you don't want to pay for the priviledge and the developers find your offer (or lack there of) unacceptable.

Why do you believe they should want to give you their game in return for none of your money? How could that possibly provide them a return on the investment that they made to update the original game?

I don't understand your logic. You don't give away your labor for free so why do you think the developers should?

I understand what you mean and it's true nonetheless, but the developers should at least give people some discount for those who have the SE already. Still though I don't think they actually deserve the money since they have been busy with doing DLC's and ♥♥♥♥ for Mankind Divived. I mean I know that they need money for the work they have done by creating the games, but I ain't a big fan of DLC's. As many have said, games aren't complete anymore like back in the day.


But that isn't the point here right now. My point is that Square Enix or Eidos should at least give us some discount that remains 'forever'. The free thing I have said earlier is well not a good idea tbh now that I think of it.

[NightOwlDelta]

Originally posted by Vassago Rain:

The upgrade was available for free for a very long time. If you didn't upgrade in that time, tough luck. They're also not required, in any way, to offer an upgrade. It was a nice freebie for the fans, which they kept extending.

You can actually buy the regular version, but not on steam. Have to find a third party site that sells steam codes. Even amazon used to stock both DC and SE versions in equal quantity at one point.

Of course you'll be paying for the game twice. That's uhh, kinda what happens with 'game of the year' or 'director's cut' versions of anything.

DC has nothing to do with SE. It's almost entirely Eidos' work. They didn't even build it on the PC version of HR that Nixxes made.

I didn't know about that actually that it was free for a time. Have you got any evidence to back that up?

[EolSunder]

again, bad logic. Why should they give you the newer game for free. Buy it like everyone else, or play your older game. If you bought fallout 3 and all the dlcs, why would they sell you fallout 3 GOTY for free. If you bought Skyrim when it first came out and bought the DLC's as they came out, why would you think you can just buy Skyrim GOTY for free.

If you bought a 2010 jaguar and kept it up, why would you think that Jaguar would give you a new jaguar just because you have an old one. Oh, you have an old GE washing machine, here you can buy a new GE washing machine for free! You already have an old one.

Just bad, bad, bad logic that beggers always bring up when they don't want to fork out money. Pay the 5 bucks and buy the game on sale, stop crying.

[NightOwlDelta]

Originally posted by EolSunder:

again, bad logic. Why should they give you the newer game for free. Buy it like everyone else, or play your older game. If you bought fallout 3 and all the dlcs, why would they sell you fallout 3 GOTY for free. If you bought Skyrim when it first came out and bought the DLC's as they came out, why would you think you can just buy Skyrim GOTY for free.

If you bought a 2010 jaguar and kept it up, why would you think that Jaguar would give you a new jaguar just because you have an old one. Oh, you have an old GE washing machine, here you can buy a new GE washing machine for free! You already have an old one.

Just bad, bad, bad logic that beggers always bring up when they don't want to fork out money. Pay the 5 bucks and buy the game on sale, stop crying.

Calm down. Read what I said in my earlier post. I realized that my logic is a bit flawed. Might be overreacting on this though anyway... Either way, we all know that developers are trying to grab as much money of people as they can. Just want to avoid it someway.

[Kauldwin]

1) The Director's Cut was offered at up to -75% for those that owned the original DXHR & TML for quite some time after release. It still frequently goes to -75% during Steam sales. Have patience and you can get it quite cheaply.

2) As others have pointed out, the original version is a fully functioning game that has not been removed from your library (despite not being available on Steam), so you have already gotten what you paid for. In order to enjoy the new work the developers have done, you'll have to pay for that new work. It's hardly unreasonable, and hardly a money grab. These folks have lives and families to support, making games is their livelihood, they spent their valuable time making a changed version, and they deserve to be paid for their work if somebody wants to use that changed version.

3) The Missing Link is rolled into the Director's Cut; offering a DC copy to everyone who owned the original would be a decent loss of profit by giving people who didn't purchase TML a lot of free story-based content. Only offering the free upgrade to people with both games would cause people with only the base game to freak out even more, especially given that the standalone TML is no longer available through Steam. The progressive discount when the Director's Cut was first released, and the frequent sales now, give everyone the opportunity to get the new content at relatively low cost.

[robbross]

I think this is an issue that everyone has; but rather than compare it to other games think about it as a car. When the producer develops a new model with more kit / better handling / etc. they don't give it to you for free. Yes it might be a cheap shot as it is 'merely and upgrade' rather than an new model, but that's how they are able to support new models and developments. You obviously have the option to stay with your old model rather than upgrade and wait for a completely new version to come out that will be better in every way. But you do get to keep your old model should you want to dive into some 'old school' play in a couple of years and you never know it could become a classic and command a premium

[casualsailor]

Originally posted by Master Delta Chief 38™:

Originally posted by casualsailor:

So, you wanted to play the original game and the developers offered it to you for a price that you found agreeable. You exchanged your money for the developers product and both of you were satisified.

The developers have incurred considerable expense to update the game graphics, integrate the DLC and revamp the boss fights. They are offering this new product for a substancial savings ($19.99 vs $59.99).

You wish to play their new game but you don't want to pay for the priviledge and the developers find your offer (or lack there of) unacceptable.

Why do you believe they should want to give you their game in return for none of your money? How could that possibly provide them a return on the investment that they made to update the original game?

I don't understand your logic. You don't give away your labor for free so why do you think the developers should?

I understand what you mean and it's true nonetheless, but the developers should at least give people some discount for those who have the SE already. Still though I don't think they actually deserve the money since they have been busy with doing DLC's and ♥♥♥♥ for Mankind Divived. I mean I know that they need money for the work they have done by creating the games, but I ain't a big fan of DLC's. As many have said, games aren't complete anymore like back in the day.


But that isn't the point here right now. My point is that Square Enix or Eidos should at least give us some discount that remains 'forever'. The free thing I have said earlier is well not a good idea tbh now that I think of it.

When you say things like "I don't think they actually deserve the money" I question your understanding of capitalism and the free market.

How does your opinion about what you believe the developers "deserve" or don't "deserve" factor into the discussion?

As stated before, the developers produced the DC version of the game at considerable expense and offered it to the public at a substantial discount. If you are unwilling to pay what they demand then don't purchase it. But to complain that you are "entitled" to an even further discount defies logic.

What is it that makes you so special that you believe the developers should work for you without compensation? Do you work without being paid?