Dredge baby (spoiler)

[Warlock_Main77]

So later in the game you come across a dredge baby and can decide what to do with it, i chose to take it with me because it might help later in the saga (hopefully) i just wanted to know what you guys did and think.

[Aleonymous]

That's a very interesting "plot thread" that was left unfinished... I hope it continues in the following parts of the Saga!

I also take the dredge baby, mainly for the small item you get as a reward for your "humanity". I was kinda disappointed at Iver, for knowing and hiding this fact. So, all dredge slingers are women. It actually makes some sense, with them being more slender, more "fancy" attired and with them being the analogue of ranged-attacker to the human archers (also all-female!).

I can imagine that this choice, taking the dredge baby, might give you some advantage when the time comes to "treat" with the dredge. It is quite obvious that the arch-enemy is not them, so it might well come to pass that all the mortal races (varl, human, horseborn, dredge) are united against the common threat.

EDIT -- You might wanna check this thread[stoicstudio.com] from the stoic forums, on the Dredge-race topic.

[Ailes]

i let people vote on it i think. i left it behind.

i was a bit disappointed with the meaning of all of it. the game obviously wants you to feel bad for the dredge. a bit. but that didnt work too well on me. i never attacked them in the first place. they are the aggressors. if they were not on a war path but on an exodus as that scene is telling you they shouldnt be attacking each and all they see. there is no way they gonna get sympathy from me considering their own constant cruel and senseless acts. if i were fleeing from my home for some darkness consuming it i wouldnt just go about and kill people who never harmed me whatsoever. the dredge are asking to get killed. i suppose it was no different with either Raze and Bellower. some small moments of kinship among themselves makes not up for what they have been doing all the time before and after.

[Aleonymous]

Originally posted by Clarity:

i was a bit disappointed with the meaning of all of it. the game obviously wants you to feel bad for the dredge. a bit. but that didnt work too well on me...

Yup, I agree that their open hostility against human and varl, from the very first encounters, doesn't help painting them as "good" in any way.

[Shade]

i voted and left it behind as well

[Warlock_Main77]

and is anyone else worried about fighting the sepent?

[Aleonymous]

I am not worried, we're surely gonna crush that giant worm! :) I don't think that there will be a "fight" with it, like against Bellower. That thing is way out of proportion! Most likely we'll take it down with the help of some "magic trick", another ace pulled from Juno's sleeve!

[Warlock_Main77]

yeah i can see that being the case

[halixon]

Originally posted by Aleonymous:

I am not worried, we're surely gonna crush that giant worm! :) I don't think that there will be a "fight" with it, like against Bellower. That thing is way out of proportion! Most likely we'll take it down with the help of some "magic trick", another ace pulled from Juno's sleeve!

Ugh, i hate Juno. She caused all of this!

[Sakkano]

Perhaps I'm odd, but a personal belief of mine is that you shouldn't hold the youth accountable for the sins of it's previous generation. Doing so only makes you as cold and awful as the dredge.

Iver's reaction and why he hid his past with Raze is understandable. In his eyes, killing a helpless woman, even if she was an enemy, is not a very noble thing. So by keeping quiet, he hid the fact that rather thank kill a dredge in combat, he murdered her and her child. Of course the other varl were unaware that dredge have gender, and if he said something, the other consequence is that others might become too soft to defend themself against the dredge because the more lithe individuals are female.Either way, he would be damned.

[Nafeij]

Originally posted by Aleonymous:

That's a very interesting "plot thread" that was left unfinished... I hope it continues in the following parts of the Saga!

When you talk with Josurr in Lundar at the end of chapter 12, you can converse with him about the baby dredge if you kept him.

So it's very likely that they haven't abandoned the plotline and will touch on it in BS3.

[Aleonymous]

@Sakkano -- Varl, despite being gender-less by definition (actually: they can't reproduce), do exhibit a behavior that is typical of (alpha) males: They're warlike, they fight, contest, drink etc. I think that Iver's whole back-story kinda reflects Aragorn's (TLotR), with the difference that the latter hid from necessity whereas the former from shame.

@Nafeij -- Indeed. I am fairly confident that we're to see some sort of "political solution" to the Human+Varl vs. Dredge conflict soon (in Saga3), in view of the Darkness and the Serpent.