Why The Rare and Uncommon Jokers are Garbage?

[Albie There]

Have been playing for a while now, unlocked a lot of decks but still playing with the 1st deck (red one) until I beat a run with it, rng really crappy in official release (compared to demo).

Now, why do you add such garbage useless jokers as rare and uncommon?

Rare and uncommon should be powerful jokers not some BS like " oh duh if you score a straight flush (or royal flush) gain 2x mult"

Some of them feel more like a disadvantage than an advantage.

Or some other BS " advantage" like gaining 1 coin if you don't discard in a round, man I should have made a list, gonna do it now, take a screenshot and make a list of all the useless ridiculous " perks" you gain with lots of jokers, specially uncommon and rare.

[Selvon]

I won on my 2nd run with red deck.

The fact that you think 2x multi is not a good reward makes me think you might be vastly underestimating how strong things are, and that's why you think things are garbage.

a 2x multi given how much flat multi you can get is extremely strong.

[Albie There]

If you won on your 2nd run you got EXTREMELY lucky.

I just unlocked a LEGENDARY joker which FFS, total garbage:

Canio

Gain 1x mult when a face card is destroyed

Lol, how rare is this event? When is a face card destroyed? and 1 freaking mult??

Legendary alright, legendary joke

[sangdel]

I also won on my second run, and have lost twice out of six runs (all on white stake). It sounds like you don't get the strategy for the game. Multiplier bonuses stack creating an exponential effect -- my most recent win I beat the boss in a single card play of a face card.

edit: to be less "git gud": Getting a flat +multiplier early will trivialize the first couple of antes, and you can use that to try and spot synergies in the random stuff you are given. Multipliers are VERY valuable if they are relevant.

[joeymoto]

Originally posted by Robertt Crown:

If you won on your 2nd run you got EXTREMELY lucky.

I just unlocked a LEGENDARY joker which FFS, total garbage:

Canio

Gain 1x mult when a face card is destroyed

Lol, how rare is this event? When is a face card destroyed? and 1 freaking mult??

Legendary alright, legendary joke

That sounds ridiculously good to me. There's a tarot card that lets you destroy 2 selected cards. You don't need to destroy many face cards before you are stacking the multiplier very high without any additional constraints.

[Selvon]

Originally posted by Robertt Crown:

If you won on your 2nd run you got EXTREMELY lucky.

I just unlocked a LEGENDARY joker which FFS, total garbage:

Canio

Gain 1x mult when a face card is destroyed

Lol, how rare is this event? When is a face card destroyed? and 1 freaking mult??

Legendary alright, legendary joke

You are really really not understanding the game. That is legitimately insanely good. I think you are playing very poorly and not understanding how to stack things up.

[Shari]

Originally posted by Robertt Crown:

If you won on your 2nd run you got EXTREMELY lucky.

I just unlocked a LEGENDARY joker which FFS, total garbage:

Canio

Gain 1x mult when a face card is destroyed

Lol, how rare is this event? When is a face card destroyed? and 1 freaking mult??

Legendary alright, legendary joke

I agree, when I see for the first time a legendary joker I dont expect it to be something EXTREMELY situational.

Oh yes there's a tarot card to destroy cards.... thats about it.

Underwhelming.

[Albie There]

Originally posted by joeymoto:

Originally posted by Robertt Crown:

If you won on your 2nd run you got EXTREMELY lucky.

I just unlocked a LEGENDARY joker which FFS, total garbage:

Canio

Gain 1x mult when a face card is destroyed

Lol, how rare is this event? When is a face card destroyed? and 1 freaking mult??

Legendary alright, legendary joke

That sounds ridiculously good to me. There's a tarot card that lets you destroy 2 selected cards. You don't need to destroy many face cards before you are stacking the multiplier very high without any additional constraints.

No , for a legendary card it's not. There is a common joker which allows you to add 1x mult per tarot card used, you don't need to wait for that specific card to destroy 2 cards. Legendary my ***

@Selvon

I understand the game just fine, until you get a decent build to beat a run you have to play a lot, or get lucky like you did. In a nutshell = you play and play until eventually get favorable RNG. And of course, as you unlock better cards it obviously increase the odds.

[akaplan1]

I think you’re confusing adding +1 multi and x1 multi.

[Selvon]

Originally posted by Robertt Crown:

Originally posted by joeymoto:

That sounds ridiculously good to me. There's a tarot card that lets you destroy 2 selected cards. You don't need to destroy many face cards before you are stacking the multiplier very high without any additional constraints.

No , for a legendary card it's not. There is a common joker which allows you to add 1x mult per tarot card used, you don't need to wait for that specific card to destroy 2 cards. Legendary my ***

@Selvon

I understand the game just fine, until you get a decent build to beat a run you have to play a lot, or get lucky like you did. In a nutshell = you play and play until eventually get favorable RNG. And of course, as you unlock better cards it obviously increase the odds.

You are 100% trolling, or again, not understanding.

You are talking about "+1 mult per tarot card used this run". If you've played 20 tarot cards this gives 20 FLAT mult.

The legendary you are talking about is 2x multi per face card destroyed. Which multiplies your mult by 2 PER face card.

If you'd destroyed 2 face cards, and had your tarot one with 20 tarots...
You'd have 20 flat. And x4 multi, for 80 multi. The more flat you have the more insane the x blah is.

[TimTim3000]

Anything that increases x mult that much is insanely good. Make sure you put that sucker on the far right of your joker lineup.

[muted]

Originally posted by akaplan1:

I think you’re confusing adding +1 multi and x1 multi.

I think this is what's happening with OP.

[Sonny]

just completed like 3 runs where i'd get 3000 multi because of x(multi) jokers idk what you're on about. Its just linear growth vs exponential growth

[Selvon]

Originally posted by Sonny:

just completed like 3 runs where i'd get 3000 multi because of x(multi) jokers idk what you're on about. Its just linear growth vs exponential growth

Yeah, i keep getting close to a million points in a single round but just missing it so far just need to get very slightly more x multi (Or even more planets to boost up the base)

[Selvon]

Nevermind, smashed the million in a single hand round:

https://imgur.com/a/LJwcfyr

Nearly 3 mil!

Edit: over 7m!

Edit2: nearly 15m!

Edit3: 51m!

Edit4: 900m!

[Albie There]

Originally posted by akaplan1:

I think you’re confusing adding +1 multi and x1 multi.

That was definitely it, did not even pay attention to +1 x1 difference

BUT, I still think there is a lot of garbage cards that sound more like a disadvantage for not giving anything meaningful and only taking up joker card space.

That is what bothers me in a lot of those type of games, why add so many trash that people won't even use.

If you are buying card packs for example, there are those cards (Gold, Foil, whatever) that sound like are gonna be great, but the reward is like "oh, you get 1 coin if you hold this card on your hand until end of round" or "oh this card gives you 3 chips if held in your hand til end of round"

I mean, seriously, 1 coin, 2 or 3 chips, lol, are you kidding me.