Why doesn't Baron's Effect Happen in Order?

[D3k0y]

I thought Joker effects are supposed to go Left to Right, so why does Baron (1.5 mult per king held) always happen first, even when the right most card?

[Ronald Brain]

Originally posted by D3k0y:

I thought Joker effects are supposed to go Left to Right, so why does Baron (1.5 mult per king held) always happen first, even when the right most card?

Jokers that apply effects to cards always go first, then when the hand is fully calculated, the general / global effects will apply in the order of left to right.

[Newgel]

Does it even matter the order that jokers are activated if all they do add is chips and mult?

[Ronald Brain]

Originally posted by Newgel:

Does it even matter the order that jokers are activated if all they do add is chips and mult?

Chips are unimportant, but Mults are. You always want Jokers that multiplies your total Mult to be on the right side, as they activate once all of your Mults are tallied.

Say you have a Zany Joker (+10 Mult for Flush) and Ramen (x2 Mult, stock). Playing any Flush will score 35x4 base, but the order of these two Jokers will change your score:
-Ramen / Zany: 35x4 (base) -> 35x8 (4x2) -> 35x18 (8+10) = 630
-Zany / Ramen: 35x4 (base) -> 35x14 (4+10) -> 35x28 (14x2) = 980

[Newgel]

Originally posted by Ronald Brain:

Originally posted by Newgel:

Does it even matter the order that jokers are activated if all they do add is chips and mult?

Chips are unimportant, but Mults are. You always want Jokers that multiplies your total Mult to be on the right side, as they activate once all of your Mults are tallied.

Say you have a Zany Joker (+10 Mult for Flush) and Ramen (x2 Mult, stock). Playing any Flush will score 35x4 base, but the order of these two Jokers will change your score:
-Ramen / Zany: 35x4 (base) -> 35x8 (4x2) -> 35x18 (8+10) = 630
-Zany / Ramen: 35x4 (base) -> 35x14 (4+10) -> 35x28 (14x2) = 980

oh thanks I thought all mults were just additive

[MrHrulgin]

Yeah, it makes the Baron way more situational than it seems on its face. It only really improves the mult of the hand itself, which, compared to anything that multiplies mult not based on cards in hand is absolute trash. For all that it's rare, it's worse than the common Shoot the Moon that gives +13 mult for each queen in hand.