Would like an option to invert the hand sorting by rank

[sab0t]

I noticed something when I had these two jokers at the same time:
'Baron' (1.5x mult for each king in hand)
'Shoot the Moon' (+13 mult for each queen in hand)

The kings were proccing first due to being on the left-most side of my hand, and the queens second. I was annoyed by this because it's better to have the +mult proc before the Xmult, so I decided to manually re-order my hand and move the kings to the right, to see if it would actually change the order it procs. and it turns out it actually does! if you move all your kings to the right, your queens will go first, and then the kings, which results in a much better score.

The problem with this is that everytime I played a hand, it would re-sort everything such that the kings were on the left again. and using "rank by suit" wasn't a good subsitute because then my kings and queens were all mixed.

This also works for things like 'Raised Fist' (move the lowest ranking card to the far left if you want it to proc before some steel cards or something).

It's definitely a niche situation but it would be nice to invert the rank sorting, or maybe disable it completely so that it stops moving cards around if you want them in a specific order.

[DirtCheap]

Can confirm that with Shoot the Moon and Baron you have to switch the Kings and Queen everytime.

[sab0t]

it's rare but it's pretty annoying when in that situation, as it makes a significant difference in score.

[TwoFaceTony]

I haven't unlocked those jokers yet, but could you not just rearrange the jokers themselves? Jokers proc left to right, so unless those jokers work differently for some reason the order of the jokers matters more than the order of the cards.

[Goblin]

Originally posted by TwoFaceTony:

I haven't unlocked those jokers yet, but could you not just rearrange the jokers themselves? Jokers proc left to right, so unless those jokers work differently for some reason the order of the jokers matters more than the order of the cards.

No. Jokers triggered by cards proc in the order of those cards first, joker order second. So if you have two jokers that trigger on kings (e.g. Photograph and Triboulet) the joker order matters on a played king (though in that example case it doesn't give a different result), but in OPs case the order of the playing cards matters.
This is true both for held in hand effects and effects triggered by cards you play.

[AtomicCaleb]

you can rearrange your cards before you play them btw, important for glass cards (+others)

[foxclear]

That feature would also be useful for the joker that says "mult x2 for the first face card scored" when non-face cards add to mult. Had to move all face cards to the right every time (or non-face to the left). Not that much of a bother, but that would be a nice feature which should not be very hard to implement anyway

[Godhand]

I also wish you could somehow filter steel cards so they are all on one side.

[sab0t]

Originally posted by Godhand:

I also wish you could somehow filter steel cards so they are all on one side.

yeah steel cards suffer from this problem too. if you have some steel kings / aces / queens, and you want your queens to trigger first, gotta re-arrange them every hand.

[sab0t]

Originally posted by foxclear:

That feature would also be useful for the joker that says "mult x2 for the first face card scored" when non-face cards add to mult. Had to move all face cards to the right every time (or non-face to the left). Not that much of a bother, but that would be a nice feature which should not be very hard to implement anyway

this one's a little different because it's the order of the played cards, as opposed to the cards in your hand, but yeah same concept. I used to think Photograph (the joker you're describing) was crap because it would usually trigger first and would barely change my score. but if you sort your hand to have some glass / mult cards trigger and THEN a face card, it can increase your score massively.

[Iapetus]

yeah i would like to invert or special to the end or a manual toggle