Questions about poker hands. A 4 3 2 = Straight Flush?

[Maleficus]

I just want to understand what makes some hands eligible to count as a Straight Flush, as you can see I can build straights and flushes using just 4 cards, but I noticed that some hands count as a SFs even though they are not in order like A 4 3 2 diamonds, and some hands like on this screenshot aren't just SFs - they are Royal Flushes... Someone who knows please explain this.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3410498516

[opie]

1. you can rearrange the order of your cards and then play them and the type of hand played will not change as long as you have all requisite cards.
2. in that screenshot , you have the four fingers voucher which allows you to make a straight flush with only 4 cards. so it's still a royal flush (which is just an ace-high straight flush) that's missing the ace.

[Goblin]

In case this was part of the confusion: Ace is a 1 card, the fact it can also go above king is the exception - not the fact it can go below 2. So A 2 3 4 (5) is very much in order.

Straight Flush is just a hand that is both a straight and a flush. As you've noticed, with Four Fingers you can make a straight with K Q J 10, and the second Q even counts as well. You also could have one of the cards be a different suit, and it'd still be a straight flush - Four Fingers also lets you make flushes with 4 cards. So you can either add a card that fits the straight and not the flush, or the flush but not the straight, and it'll still get counted as part of the hand.

As for Royal Flush, the game only checks that it's a straight flush and the lowest card is at least a 10. So with Four Fingers, you can just use KQJ10, or AKQJ. Not that Royal Flush gives any benefit, it still counts as a Straight Flush. The only relevancy is the achievement for playing one, and an unlock for discarding one.

[Maleficus]

Messaggio originale di opie:

1. you can rearrange the order of your cards and then play them and the type of hand played will not change as long as you have all requisite cards.
2. in that screenshot , you have the four fingers voucher which allows you to make a straight flush with only 4 cards. so it's still a royal flush (which is just an ace-high straight flush) that's missing the ace.

1. I figured it out, so the order of this particular straight is 4-3-2-Ace. Now I recall when I used "Strength" tarot once on an Ace it became a 2, so it makes sense.

2. I understand, the only weird thing here is I selected 5 cards without an Ace but it still counts as Royal Flush because of the "Four fingers", I can see why it would make sense for it to count as RF with only 4 cards (if I would unselect a queen or a 10) though.

Thx I think I got the answer to my question.

[Maleficus]

Messaggio originale di Goblin:

In case this was part of the confusion: Ace is a 1 card, the fact it can also go above king is the exception - not the fact it can go below 2. So A 2 3 4 (5) is very much in order.

Straight Flush is just a hand that is both a straight and a flush. As you've noticed, with Four Fingers you can make a straight with K Q J 10, and the second Q even counts as well. You also could have one of the cards be a different suit, and it'd still be a straight flush - Four Fingers also lets you make flushes with 4 cards. So you can either add a card that fits the straight and not the flush, or the flush but not the straight, and it'll still get counted as part of the hand.

As for Royal Flush, the game only checks that it's a straight flush and the lowest card is at least a 10. So with Four Fingers, you can just use KQJ10, or AKQJ. Not that Royal Flush gives any benefit, it still counts as a Straight Flush. The only relevancy is the achievement for playing one, and an unlock for discarding one.

Thank you sir, your answer is a bit more expansive. So if I removed the 10 from the selection it wouldn't count as RF?

[Goblin]

Messaggio originale di Maleficus:

Thank you sir, your answer is a bit more expansive. So if I removed the 10 from the selection it wouldn't count as RF?

It'd just be a Flush, since you wouldn't have at least four cards that make up a Straight.

[Maleficus]

Messaggio originale di Goblin:

Messaggio originale di Maleficus:

Thank you sir, your answer is a bit more expansive. So if I removed the 10 from the selection it wouldn't count as RF?

It'd just be a Flush, since you wouldn't have at least four cards that make up a Straight.

Right. I would argue about the part where the game checks for a 10 as the lowest card, unless you're absolutely sure. Wouldn't A-K-Q-J count as a RF with Four fingers?

[Goblin]

Messaggio originale di Maleficus:

Messaggio originale di Goblin:

It'd just be a Flush, since you wouldn't have at least four cards that make up a Straight.

Right. I would argue about the part where the game checks for a 10 as the lowest card, unless you're absolutely sure. Wouldn't A-K-Q-J count as a RF with Four fingers?

I said it checks if the lowest card is at least a 10. Jack is above 10, so if that is the lowest card and it counts as a straight, it's a Royal Flush.
And despite what I said in my first post, the game does consider Aces to be above Kings, even if technically it's just a 1 rank. Same reason in normal poker Ace High would win against King High.

[Analbumcover]

Messaggio originale di Goblin:

In case this was part of the confusion: Ace is a 1 card, the fact it can also go above king is the exception - not the fact it can go below 2. So A 2 3 4 (5) is very much in order.

Mechanically an ace is not a number, despite substituting for either 1 or 11. Aces, faces, and numbers are three distinct rank types. The spectral card "Incantation" cannot create an ace as part of its "create 4 enhanced number cards" effect.

[FJG741]

Messaggio originale di opie:

1. you can rearrange the order of your cards

This actually answered the question for me. I knew you could rearrange the jokers, but not move the Aces around.

I've duplicated Aces before, then had them appear next to the deuces - I figured you had to duplicate them in order for them to work as A2345 starters. Then my friend said "You can't do A2345 straights?", but now I realize you have to move them first.

Thanks! :)

[Goblin]

Messaggio originale di fjg741:

Messaggio originale di opie:

1. you can rearrange the order of your cards

This actually answered the question for me. I knew you could rearrange the jokers, but not move the Aces around.

I've duplicated Aces before, then had them appear next to the deuces - I figured you had to duplicate them in order for them to work as A2345 starters. Then my friend said "You can't do A2345 straights?", but now I realize you have to move them first.

Thanks! :)

Order doesn't matter for actually making valid poker hands. A2345 and A5432 both count as a straight. It only matters if some of the cards trigger certain jokers, or have certain editions/enhancements/seals.