Seems like most jokers are very situational and trash tier

[kameltoes]

I love the game, but the more I unlock, the worse the game feels over time. I feel a lot of these jokers need some love.

[CMDR Shven]

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Първоначално публикувано от ulzgoroth:

As opposed to meme-poisoned folks who have made mediocre trolling their personality?

I don't think they're intentionally trolling, they just haven't thought about their complaints very much.

If all jokers are equally useful all the time, then you remove portions of the game to save/hunt and unlock new jokers. All runs become essentially the same and boring. Noone would play the OPs ideal version of the game, ever.

Dildo stonks is 100% trolling. He's been necroing old topics to make irrelevant complaints for a couple days now and doesn't directly respond to comments any more or accept any advice and just keeps spouting the same two or three ridiculous comments. Don't engage.

[Dr. Cheesefart]

CMDR Shven is angry because I don't play the way he wants me to.

[RazzberryMocha]

Първоначално публикувано от Dildo STONKS:

CMDR Shven is angry because I don't play the way he wants me to. :♥♥♥♥::♥♥♥♥::♥♥♥♥:

Even if that were true that wouldn't justify you necroing old discussions and making intentionally inflammatory comments.

[CMDR Shven]

Първоначално публикувано от Dildo STONKS:

CMDR Shven correctly thinks I'm wasting people's time because I play the game poorly and complain about it and disregard advice from better players because I think I'm smarter even though I lose. :♥♥♥♥::♥♥♥♥::♥♥♥♥:

Fixed that for you.

[kameltoes]

I will beat the black deck. I feel the best approach is to hold R until I get a free shop and hope to get a decent start-up to offset the low number of hands and discards. It's weird. This game gives almost the same kind of "high" as beating a dark souls boss whenever I beat a deck, and even more so when I hit ante 11.

[CMDR Shven]

Първоначално публикувано от kameltoes:

I will beat the black deck. I feel the best approach is to hold R until I get a free shop and hope to get a decent start-up to offset the low number of hands and discards. It's weird. This game gives almost the same kind of "high" as beating a dark souls boss whenever I beat a deck, and even more so when I hit ante 11.

I can guarantee you that is not the way to win the game, particularly on black deck. It's already slightly harder than usual to win the first ante because you have one fewer hand and by skipping the first blind you're forcing yourself to go straight against the big blind while still having no jokers and no augmentations to your deck. You will frequently lose to the big blind and when you don't there's absolutely no guarantee you're going to get anything that boosts your score in the shop even when everything is free. You will much more consistently get runs going by beating the first blind in one or maybe two hands and buying a joker the traditional way in the first shop.

Also. . . holding R is really boring and you're not learning how to actually play the game by just spamming reset. You're only practicing resetting. Which is not going to help you when you increase the stake. Skipping blinds is already not very good at any difficulty and it just gets worse the higher in the stakes you go.

[ulzgoroth]

Първоначално публикувано от CMDR Shven:

Първоначално публикувано от kameltoes:

I will beat the black deck. I feel the best approach is to hold R until I get a free shop and hope to get a decent start-up to offset the low number of hands and discards. It's weird. This game gives almost the same kind of "high" as beating a dark souls boss whenever I beat a deck, and even more so when I hit ante 11.

I can guarantee you that is not the way to win the game, particularly on black deck. It's already slightly harder than usual to win the first ante because you have one fewer hand and by skipping the first blind you're forcing yourself to go straight against the big blind while still having no jokers and no augmentations to your deck. You will frequently lose to the big blind and when you don't there's absolutely no guarantee you're going to get anything that boosts your score in the shop even when everything is free. You will much more consistently get runs going by beating the first blind in one or maybe two hands and buying a joker the traditional way in the first shop.

Also. . . holding R is really boring and you're not learning how to actually play the game by just spamming reset. You're only practicing resetting. Which is not going to help you when you increase the stake. Skipping blinds is already not very good at any difficulty and it just gets worse the higher in the stakes you go.

While I also disagree with the proposal, if you frequently lose to Ante 1 Big Blind when lacking an edge, that's a user error.

[CMDR Shven]

Първоначално публикувано от ulzgoroth:

While I also disagree with the proposal, if you frequently lose to Ante 1 Big Blind when lacking an edge, that's a user error.

I suppose I should clarify that I think new players are more likely to lose against the big blind with no jokers due to inexperience and not because it's impossible.

[kameltoes]

FINALLY BEAT BLACK DECK!
10 joker run
IF anyone needs a good code to beat the black deck Here it is
CFMCYC8R

[ulzgoroth]

Първоначално публикувано от kameltoes:

FINALLY BEAT BLACK DECK!
10 joker run
IF anyone needs a good code to beat the black deck Here it is
CFMCYC8R

Congrats.

Note of caution for others: using a seeded run means you don't unlock anything, so if you're trying to beat the black deck because you want to get credit for doing so, this won't help.

[kameltoes]

Първоначално публикувано от ulzgoroth:

Първоначално публикувано от kameltoes:

FINALLY BEAT BLACK DECK!
10 joker run
IF anyone needs a good code to beat the black deck Here it is
CFMCYC8R

Congrats.

Note of caution for others: using a seeded run means you don't unlock anything, so if you're trying to beat the black deck because you want to get credit for doing so, this won't help.

Damn. I didn't know that. Thanks for the tip. I've beaten every deck honest, so to speak. Now on to the checkerboard deck

[burl]

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R until free shop. Anyone else, or am I missing something.

No. That's a terrible strategy.

It's actually not a bad strategy at all lol

[srn347]

Skipping the small blind loses you out on seeing 2 joker slots, 2 card packs (1 of which is guaranteed to be a buffoon pack on your first shop), and receiving $2-3 (usually $3, but an unlucky small blind is possible). That opportunity cost easily outweighs the money saved from making the next shop free.

[HeraldOfOpera]

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Първоначално публикувано от CMDR Shven:

No. That's a terrible strategy.

It's actually not a bad strategy at all lol

It's suboptimal and shouldn't be taught to new players, but there are far worse things you could be doing.

[kameltoes]

Finally doing well

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