why can't I just use a seeded run to force unlocks

[Omicron-0B]

I should not have to spend hours rerolling to luck into the kind of voucher and joker combo that lets me actually reach $400 in an unseeded run. I shouldn't have to. *You* shouldn't have to either.

[Omicron-0B]

Postat inițial de Monoxide:

Postat inițial de Omegonthesane:

I should not have to spend hours rerolling to luck into the kind of voucher and joker combo that lets me actually reach $400 in an unseeded run. I shouldn't have to. *You* shouldn't have to either.

You don’t need a seed for this at all just play normally until you get a natural seed money and then hit the $400 in endless, if not seed money gold mask or just egg + temperance. This achievement is free.

> play normally until you get a natural seed money

so reroll like hell and still don't make the $400 before the ante 12 wall, got it.

[Exploding Carrot]

Postat inițial de Zaga:

Postat inițial de Omegonthesane:

Why is that "fair" exactly? If someone wants an achievement badly enough to look for a seed that guarantees it instead of endlessly rerolling, why should they be denied?

To be honest, the fact I can't just use some deterministic means to force the last few unlocks has genuinely sapped the joy of the game for me. I ***cannot*** just pick a deck and have fun. Not the way my brain works. I ***have to*** endlessly reroll in the hopes of getting that one unlock.

I mean using a seeded run and using SAM to unlock achievements is pretty much the same, if you want to get them so bad without actually getting them rightfuly just use SAM and the option to get all unlocks and be happy I guess

What is SAM?

[Scrub]

What a crazy weird specific complaint.

Just use SAM like all the other whiners

[gl00m?]

can't spell privilege without vile

[Mallix]

jesus ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ christ...
So you want to cheat, but you DON'T want to cheat...

What the ♥♥♥♥ mate??? Just use SAM if you're that desperate for achievements that you can't even be arsed to play the game it was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ intended to.

[Ronald Brain]

Postat inițial de Omegonthesane:

Unlock hunting. Difference. I'm not really playing the full game if the entire joker and voucher pool isn't present for RNG to draw from. If that was the case, then á la Vampire Survivors there'd be an option to explicitly remove X amount of vouchers and jokers from the pool on my own terms.

"Unlock All" turns off achievements. Not a real option.

So far your entire argument was "I want to unlock, but don't want to go through the effort to achieve it". Why do you even play a game that grinding unlock is a part of it?

Everyone already said it. Use an Unlocked save file to access everything if you want the experience. Or just use SAM to grant yourself the achievements you don't want to work for. There, done. You can't have both, that's ridiculous.

There's a good reason Seeded and Challenge runs don't unlock - because EVERYONE'd be able to do so, making unlocks and achievements pointless. The unseeded requirements actually make players work for it, and form a strategy on the fly if the run happens to present that opportunity (For example you got a strong start and save up all Double Tag, then wait for double money down the line). It is DOABLE, it just takes time (and luck) to get there.

[Exploding Carrot]

Can someone tell me what SAM is? I keep seeing it mentioned, but searching it up isn't giving me any relevant results.

[HereIsPlenty]

Postat inițial de Exploding Carrot:

Can someone tell me what SAM is? I keep seeing it mentioned, but searching it up isn't giving me any relevant results.

SAM is something that sometimes gets people banned for discussing it but I will risk it - Steam Achievement Manager, allows you to cheat in some games and get the achievements without doing the work.

I am not advocating it, Mr Moderator.

[travelingnight]

Personally I just used the yellow deck and restarted constantly until I got the voucher tag. And then I would play through to look at the shop. I'd look and restart if there was no seed money or at least one of the good economy jokers. I still did a few runs unsuccessfully, but all in all it didn't take a ton of time. The combo that did it for me was both economy vouchers and the to the moon joker. I was getting $40 every blind, so I just had to survive long enough in endless to get there. Obviously I can't say you'll get it as fast, but if you do try for it, I'd suggest the yellow deck and reroll for economy voucher tag.

Edit, to be clear, I only started with the voucher, the rest was rerolling and luck of course.

[yo]

this just may not be your type of game buddy

[Monoxide]

Postat inițial de Omegonthesane:

Postat inițial de Monoxide:

You don’t need a seed for this at all just play normally until you get a natural seed money and then hit the $400 in endless, if not seed money gold mask or just egg + temperance. This achievement is free.

> play normally until you get a natural seed money

so reroll like hell and still don't make the $400 before the ante 12 wall, got it.

No don’t reroll anything, fo other stuff and once the opportunity presents itself tack that onto your run in endless. The 12th ante wall thats 4 antes past 8 with seed money thats $120 for just existing with seed money and if you hit the tree before 8 thats over half your goal. Its not hard and you don’t need to fish. Just play the game and it will come.

[Exploding Carrot]

Postat inițial de HereIsPlenty:

Postat inițial de Exploding Carrot:

Can someone tell me what SAM is? I keep seeing it mentioned, but searching it up isn't giving me any relevant results.

SAM is something that sometimes gets people banned for discussing it but I will risk it - Steam Achievement Manager, allows you to cheat in some games and get the achievements without doing the work.

I am not advocating it, Mr Moderator.

Thanks for the explanation. Not something I'll use, but at least I know what it is now.

[Typisch]

of all the unlocks, you chose to complain about a really easy one

[iheartdaikaiju]

Postat inițial de malogoss:

Play Anaglyph deck, and only skip a blind if it's a "double your money" tag. Or anything that is worth at least $40 per tag.

There, $400, easy

There's a ton of ways. I deleted the challenge run stuff because that doesn't give you cheevos but, OP, if you focus on Vagabond, Hallucination, Fortune Teller, and certificate (easy to unlock, gold star with gold seal) you'll get a crapton of tarot cards and using them will boost Fortune Teller, tarot decks have hermit, temperance, devil, fool, death, and magician, all of which typically make you between $20 and $50 when you pop em midgame. Certificate is there to generate purple and blue seal cards occasionally so you aren't spending money on planets or standard packs. I learned this strategy doing the scramble challenge.

[Godhand]

Postat inițial de malogoss:

Play Anaglyph deck, and only skip a blind if it's a "double your money" tag. Or anything that is worth at least $40 per tag.

There, $400, easy

Do this ^ @OP

I did it the regular way by just playing and it was tough. On all 3 of my saves I did it without the anaglyph deck and getting the $400 was always one of the last things to unlock. So I don't quite believe people when they say it's easy.
Either they got lucky in the shop/joker/tarot or they used some strategy which makes it easier (anaglyph for instance).