obelisk needs a rework

[BooQueefius]

a decent joker that is genuinely not fun to play

[Goblin]

Escrito originalmente por Ratch:

Escrito originalmente por Goblin:

The issue there is that you didn't spend a few rounds playing high cards before finishing the round to pump it to 20+ times played, not that Obelisk is bad. You shouldn't be trying to pump it up when your highest number of plays is 6.
It's not a godtier card for sure, but some of you think it's a lot worse than it actually is.

Please explain better.
afaik You have to like, throw the first 3 antes playing only high card while simultaneously tanking the resets each time and still winning. Your proposal doesn't solve the issue Sober presents. In order to keep pumping the card up like you suggest, you'd have to reset the card constantly because high card will be your highest played hand. That's not a viable solution when the problem is "it resets on a tie"

edit: pre-emptive projected strawman response "yeah dude it's only good for like 2x mult at most" then it's garbage

It very much solves the issue Sober presented. "All my hands get to 5 played and playing them would reset Obelisk" was the issue presented. The most played hand being at 20+ instead before you start building xmult on Obelisk is the solution. That's 6*15 hands more to play in their scenario. It won't carry you far into endless but it very much helps you beat the game.
No one forces you to start pumping up Obelisk the moment you buy it. Buy it, do some setup, have powerful card. Instead of buy it, don't do setup, then whine the card is "useless".

Escrito originalmente por Arancil:

Yeah, if you can spend the time to just throw away extra hands (and thus extra cash) just to pump up obelisk LATER, it seems you're already doing quite well and won't need to rely on obelisk to get across the finishing line. Sounds like a meme strategy at that point.

There's plenty of time in runs where you aren't anywhere near the scores needed to win ante 8 yet, but have plenty of breathing room for the foreseeable rounds. You can use the thing in front of you, with a strategy that costs you some income, or you can take the income and gamble you come across something better. There's circumstances that make the former better way, such as "I need to play those extra hands anyway to pump up my Ride the Bus/Green Joker, may as well beat two birds with one stone"