As someone asking for the game's difficulty to change...

[Jakkson K]

I wasn't asking it to be easy. The change to Gold and Orange stakes are great.
Change to ante scaling wasn't needed and made the mid game too easy without changing early game. (ante 2 and maybe ante 3 scaling are fine. Ante 5 didn't need a change.)

The buff to tags is hilariously strong. Like please go back to how it was or just make the uncommon joker tag give it free.

Making the garenteed negative or polychrome joker free is a joke. Like seriously? Foil and Holo jokers might deserve a discount or made free from tags as they don't provide much value to take the tag past ante 3, but like wow. Negative tag was always one of the strongest tags.

Also it seems like a lot of changing increase money generation. Which might not be a bad thing if the game changes around the increased money generation.

Changing individual jokers is fine. Buffing some, nerfing others. Making some more usuable, while changing others to not be dominant. I only skimmed them so I don't know if there is any egregious power swings upward.

[malogoss]

Wait until you play gold stake, skip a blind for its rare joker tag and the result is an eternal+rental one.

Suddenly, those tags need a buff, not a nerf.

[Jakkson K]

That might be an issue of designing for higher stakes and applying it to all previous stakes which isn't a good thing. If the tags are balanced at Gold Stake, but super brokenly strong at Blue Stake, maybe it shouldn't have applied downward. A common game design mistake is thinking that higher difficulties can't throw you a bone to balance themselves out.

[malogoss]

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Not exactly my definition of fun and of rewarding good decisions.

[Jakkson K]

I mean, the extra joker debuffs are fun in theory to play around. I haven't actually changed to beta. Maybe they are either too common or the issue is they stack...
Maybe the tags could make them the normal price but can't have an sticker on them.

[Zelakon]

I uninstalled this game a while back but was interested in reading the patch notes for this game-wide nerf and I gotta say, reading OP create a thread with a similar set of opinions to mine is very refreshing indeed!

It's a shame how often the actual challenge in games these days gets over-compensated for, rather than just addressing the few specific elements of unfair difficulty...

It also undermines the efforts of those of us who spent time completing various parts of the game pre-patch, and will no doubt piss many of them off! (Myself not included, because I'm still happy with my completionist achievement, and felt the others would've been a massive grind regardless of the update.)

[pirate135246]

Originally posted by malogoss:

Wait until you play gold stake, skip a blind for its rare joker tag and the result is an eternal+rental one.

Suddenly, those tags need a buff, not a nerf.

thats the point of gold stake

[pirate135246]

rare skip tag is op

[malogoss]

Originally posted by pirate135246:

thats the point of gold stake

Sorry, what's the point of gold stake?

[malogoss]

Originally posted by Jakkson K:

I mean, the extra joker debuffs are fun in theory to play around. I haven't actually changed to beta. Maybe they are either too common or the issue is they stack...
Maybe the tags could make them the normal price but can't have an sticker on them.

Each of the 3 debuff happens 30% of the times. As a result, we're left with only 34% of jokers that are clean.

Check your joker lineup at ante 3. Now imagine 1-2 are rental, 1-2 are perishable, 1-2 are eternal, some possibly a combo of those, the only impossible one being perishable + eternal. It's either that or #2 you still have empty slots or #3 you have a lineup of clean but really bad jokers.

Since paying 7-8$ per round (rental+renewal of perishable) is not sustainable, the only real option is bad jokers. Unless you somehow get lucky, hit good clean jokers and can continue. I managed to do that 2-3 times, past that point the game is ridiculously easy. Why? Low cost of packs, 8 card hand.

Honestly, don't try the beta, play that next version when you'll be forced to. By then, hopefully, it'll be better.