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pkillthetoy Feb 27, 2024 @ 1:22pm
Consistency issue with Jokers that change every round
The Idol (chosen card gives x2 Mult when scored) picks a card *from your deck* each round to be the chosen card. This means that changing the cards in your deck will affect what's likely to be picked.

I recently found out the hard way that this is not true for the Ancient Joker (chosen suit gives x1.5 Mult when scored), because I was on the checkered deck, and the joker picked Diamonds when I had no diamonds in deck.

Can jokers that change every round behave consistently with regards to either picking based on deck contents, or entirely at random? If it's intended for the jokers to behave differently, can they have a bit of text that indicates how they behave? This would also apply to Mail-In Rebate and the castle joker (the one that gains chips when you discard a specific rank).
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brickey.8 Feb 27, 2024 @ 4:38pm 
I didn't know Idol worked like that, I was wondering. I guess that answers my unasked question about "is this thing completely useless?" I wouldn't be surprised if that card is an exception among similar cards, since it's the only one that demands a specific rank AND suit.

Fun tip: Ancient joker can still always be used to boost wild cards, regardless of what it picks. If you have time to plan around it, it turns any Wild card enchantment into a valuable guaranteed 1.5x multiplier, with 1-in-4 chance of getting a boost on anything else as well. Also works well with Smeared Joker. Even so it's still relatively ill-suited to the checkered deck due to that luck factor.
SamTheSandwich Feb 27, 2024 @ 6:36pm 
Castle also works from your deck btw
Moogleboy Feb 27, 2024 @ 11:58pm 
AFAIK Ancient Joker is the only card that *DOESN'T* work the same way everything else does. Mail-In Rebate, Castle, and The Idol all respect cards in your Deck, while To-Do List, and all the Celestial Packs, as well as individual Planets that show up in the shop respect what hands you can actually make. It's why you can't find Eris/Planet X/Ceres without altering your deck. It definitely seems like a bug.
Goblin Feb 28, 2024 @ 12:12am 
The planets aren't about respecting your deck, you can destroy the cards needed to make those hands and still get them. They just are "softlocked" until you play the hand once in a run.

The reason for the disparity between the jokers is that, like Brickey said, it requires both rank and suit. You can use up all your hands and discards and not encounter the right card for the idol, while just getting some of a suit it way easier except if you converted a suit or use checkered deck - in which case you shouldn't be trying to take ancient.
It's also a lot harder to make all your cards a single suit and rank, which would make Idol strong as heck, than it is to force a single suit and break Ancient if it worked like this. Even just on checkered deck it'd be pretty dang OP. So this feels more like intentional balancing that a "consistency issue" to me.
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Date Posted: Feb 27, 2024 @ 1:22pm
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