Just got 'Face cards debuffed' while trying to do the 'mad world' challenge

[Meng]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3169457327

Eternal 'all cards are face cards' joker + 'All face cards are debuffed' = unsatisfying death.

Maybe some boss blinds should be disabled on some of these challenge runs? No Chicot chance, no sticker to reroll boss, so I was just boned.

[FearJudge]

I know the pain and can relate, also mine was literally the last boss in the run, hard countering the entire run. While technically not impossible to beat these situations, they do kind of squeeze a lot of fun out of the challenges.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3166804470

Maybe starting with the re-roll voucher could be enough to at least prevent the worst-case scenarios.

[TragSifarin]

I did manage to win Non-Perishable on ante 8 when "All cards debuffed until you sell a joker." Pretty surprised I managed that.

[butterdog]

Just encountered this at the end of a fantastic run, real buzz kill.

I even got my FIRST legendary joker, but it was one beginning with 'T' that was also useless for the face card challenge, not that I expect the logic to screen those out.

[Pingoso]

I also got that boss during mad world, but somehow beat it with hand level alone.

[redned]

I had a run earlier today, bought pareidolia before checking which boss blind I will face. had to sell it before I even got to use it. luckily I found a replacement that wasn't that bad.

Edit: oh just realised you are talking about the challenges, haven't tried any yet. just trying to slowly unlock and try out all the decks I have.
recently unlocked zodiac deck.

[butterdog]

Originally posted by Pingoso:

I also got that boss during mad world, but somehow beat it with hand level alone.

Just after posting I ran into the same predicament quite early in the run and yes it's beatable even if all your cards are blocked, provided you've managed to boost your hand multipliers.

[Meng]

I suppose the bigger problem is that you can't tell what bosses you're going to fight.

I know in monster train at least, you can see what some of the bosses are ahead of time, so you know that you're going to need to account for that

[JonJaded]

wow tough

[Ronald Brain]

Originally posted by Meng:

I suppose the bigger problem is that you can't tell what bosses you're going to fight.

I know in monster train at least, you can see what some of the bosses are ahead of time, so you know that you're going to need to account for that

When a new Ante begins, you can see the boss blind two rounds ahead.

[Zelakon]

Originally posted by Ronald Brain:

When a new Ante begins, you can see the boss blind two rounds ahead.

I think the problem (and slight game design issue) is that when you're in the shop after defeating a boss, clicking the blinds info via the options shows you still on the previous ante (instead of the one you're now going into), so you can't see the next boss blind.

Basically means you get a maximum of two shop encounters to prepare for something build-breaking instead of three...

[sab0t]

this situation really sucks, i feel for you. i've actually managed to 'tank' bosses that counter my build, on occasion. like if i am playing with hearts flush and get the hearts debuff boss, sometimes if i have no other choice, just playing the flushes anyway can still win if the base hand level and jokers are good enough.

still though not the greatest feeling to come up against a hard counter that you were forced into in the first place.

[Faray]

Not even challenge runs in regular runs nothing is more annoying than building a deck and losing because you have 0 chance to beat the blind. The bad RNG is starting to kill the game for me.