4 of a kind not a 2 pair?

[Kate_Unknown]

Why doesn't a 4 of a kind count as a 2 pair? You got 2 pairs of the same card.

[Nico]

Surely because it can't be BOTH 4 of a kind and 2 pairs. Otherwise you could also count 5 of a kind as 5 high cards, and so on.

[SandTag]

Originally posted by Uzumaki:

Why doesn't a 4 of a kind count as a 2 pair? You got 2 pairs of the same card.

Idk it seems like a bug

[Mäkätti]

Two pairs means two pairs of different cards. Not a bug, just poker rules.

[LordZon]

Because its much hard statically to get 4 of the same card than two random pairs.

[symphony]

4 is not a pair

[SandTag]

Originally posted by symphony:

4 is not a pair

4 contains 2 twice, so of course its not a pair, its two pairs.

[SandTag]

Originally posted by Mäkätti:

Two pairs means two pairs of different cards. Not a bug, just poker rules.

Thats not how balatro works, a full house is considered a three of a kind for its bozo.

[Xeno42]

my best guess is the resurion would be a little silly 4of counts as 3of and 2of already. otherwise 5of would also be a full house as well

[GrandTickler]

yeah i noticed a flush that contains a pair in it also trigger pair based joker abilities. i havent tested it on 4 of a kind myself tho

[taggedjc]

Two Pair specifically has to be two *different* ranks, so four-of-a-kind does not contain two pairs (although it does contain one pair).

[ima]

2 pairs does need to be pairs of different ranks, so while a full house technically contains 2 pairs, a 4/5 of a kind does not.

I do agree it's a bit ambiguous.

[Mezisophon]

Same thing with straight flush and flushes. Just now I was in a situation where I needed to only make a flush (only play one type of hand), and accidentally I could make a straight flush, but that wouldn't count. Fortunately I had another card of the same suit and could make a regular flush. But it doesn't make sense that a straight flush wouldn't be good enough for the objective "make a flush".

[marharols]

The group name will be a four of a kind, not two pair as a two pair require two separate groupings. This is the reason why every jokers says it needs to *contain* two pair or whatever.

Calling 4 of a kind a two pair would be like calling a car for wheels because it has them.

[Forblaze]

I think the question is really the specific interaction you're looking at. Some things are worded specifically as "hand that contains" to allow them to trigger them on higher ranking hands.

[Shot_Trip]

Two pair is listed in the hand types as two pairs of different ranks. While some jokers - such as the hand type boosters - will count, say, three of a kind and a pair in a full house, four of a kind and two pair are *mutually exclusive* hands.