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Make your highest available "difficulty stake" available for ALL decks
The different decks are there for variance and replayability right? Being forced to go through 4-5 full runs with any deck you haven't played much with yet just to slowly level up the difficulty one tier at a time, before you could even attempt to beat the highest stake you've already reached with another deck is crazy..

Every deck you have should always be able to go against the highest level. I still have 4 entire decks not unlocked yet, I'm at green stakes (only 3rd difficulty) after 8 pretty quick wins total, if I'd like to even TRY this next challenge level with all the different decks I have, that would mean 14 required wins for me replaying level 1 and 2 with all the decks.

I'm sure people would love to beat the highest level with all decks (level 8 seem to be the highest) this is just ridiculous unnecessary grind, the game has 15 decks! This really should be changed.
Last edited by Wheelchair Murdura; Feb 24, 2024 @ 5:44pm
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PaulThreeSixty Feb 24, 2024 @ 4:31pm 
Yeah it feels like unnecessary grind.
Originally posted by PaulThreeSixty:
Yeah it feels like unnecessary grind.

Yeah this is ridiculous. Orange stake is the highest to unlock the last deck, level 6. Being able to try that with all previous decks unlocked is 5 wins on every previous difficulty times 14 decks right? And that is if you win every full run first time, 60-70 wins through all levels just to unlock difficulty you've already reached with another deck, because we DO want to have fun and try all the deck variations...
Ronald Brain Feb 25, 2024 @ 4:59am 
Originally posted by Wheelchair Murdura:
The different decks are there for variance and replayability right? Being forced to go through 4-5 full runs with any deck you haven't played much with yet just to slowly level up the difficulty one tier at a time, before you could even attempt to beat the highest stake you've already reached with another deck is crazy..

Every deck you have should always be able to go against the highest level. I still have 4 entire decks not unlocked yet, I'm at green stakes (only 3rd difficulty) after 8 pretty quick wins total, if I'd like to even TRY this next challenge level with all the different decks I have, that would mean 14 required wins for me replaying level 1 and 2 with all the decks.

I'm sure people would love to beat the highest level with all decks (level 8 seem to be the highest) this is just ridiculous unnecessary grind, the game has 15 decks! This really should be changed.

There's literally an UNLOCK ALL button on your Profile, so make a new one, click it, and bam, everything's yours to play with.
Originally posted by Ronald Brain:
There's literally an UNLOCK ALL button on your Profile, so make a new one, click it, and bam, everything's yours to play with.

Sure, but I don't feel having a "cheat" for unlock all on a different profile to be a good solution at all for this. Don't you agree you should be able to try the level you're at with the decks and cards you have unlocked?

I don't want to unlock decks and jokers I don't have yet, just try a difficulty I've reached with the rest of my available decks without the unnecessary grind of replaying every level with every deck. In the end we do have 15 decks and 6(+2 more above orange it seems?) levels of "ascension difficulties". The jokers already keep a track when they've been used to win a certain stake level, exactly the same thing could be added to the decks.

I really hope they will consider this and that people chime in if they agree with this very minor change I'm proposing. I don't see any downsides to open the difficulties you already beaten.
Ronald Brain Feb 27, 2024 @ 5:15am 
Originally posted by Wheelchair Murdura:
Sure, but I don't feel having a "cheat" for unlock all on a different profile to be a good solution at all for this. Don't you agree you should be able to try the level you're at with the decks and cards you have unlocked?

I don't want to unlock decks and jokers I don't have yet, just try a difficulty I've reached with the rest of my available decks without the unnecessary grind of replaying every level with every deck. In the end we do have 15 decks and 6(+2 more above orange it seems?) levels of "ascension difficulties". The jokers already keep a track when they've been used to win a certain stake level, exactly the same thing could be added to the decks.

I really hope they will consider this and that people chime in if they agree with this very minor change I'm proposing. I don't see any downsides to open the difficulties you already beaten.

You don't want to cheat but don't want to grind at the same time, how does that even work lol.

The progression system is implemented as-is because decks play different, some easy, some hard. Having stakes "unlock all" is essentially a cheat in itself: Everyone'll stick to the easiest deck (Mostly Yellow, due to strong economy head start) to get Gold Stake, then go play it on another deck. Doesn't sound like fun to me since you never earned it.
Originally posted by Ronald Brain:
You don't want to cheat but don't want to grind at the same time, how does that even work lol.

That's beyond dumb. I don't mind grinding things I haven't been able to beat. The first stakes are not hard at all, that's why we're all talking about *unnecessary* grind to level every deck through easy stakes you've already beat.

"Bu-bu but ever deck is differeeeeeent they have different challengeeeees! You have to leeeaarn" YES, that is exactly why we'd like to have fun and try ALL of that different content while still trying the hardest stakes we've reached, and while still unlocking jokers on our saves and not using a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ unlock all cheat.

Ask yourself why you argue against this and how it makes the game a worse experience for you.
Goblin Feb 27, 2024 @ 8:36am 
Completion is the achievement for seeing all game content, with zero grind. Getting this is more your speed.
Completion+ is for people who want to grind all decks through all difficulties.
Completion++ is for people who want to grind 100% of all content at max difficulty. Honestly, be glad it doesn't require every stake's unique sticker lol.

Arguing that the second of the three should instead be lowered to the level of the first is removing content, lowering the "value" of the achievement for those who were willing to do it. If you just want to play all decks on the hardest difficulty you are offered a chance to do so, just without the achievement you would get for actually putting in the effort.

Only concession that could be made without removing content and effort required is allowing you to play on every difficulty you unlocked, but still require you to beat every deck on every difficulty for the achievement. And slap more stickers on the decks, everybody loves stickers. But considering your opposition to disabling achievements on a separate save slot to get to play max difficulty, that's not enough for you is it?
SoulsDestiny Feb 27, 2024 @ 8:45am 
Grind it if you want the achievements or don't.
sab0t Feb 27, 2024 @ 10:10am 
Originally posted by Goblin:
And slap more stickers on the decks, everybody loves stickers.

i was a bit disappointed when i got my first red sticker, and it just replaced the white sticker. i was hoping to have tons of them lol.
A bear Feb 27, 2024 @ 10:13am 
Gotta get the gold stickers on all the jokers in your collection!
Ronald Brain Feb 27, 2024 @ 10:37am 
Originally posted by Wheelchair Murdura:
That's beyond dumb. I don't mind grinding things I haven't been able to beat. The first stakes are not hard at all, that's why we're all talking about *unnecessary* grind to level every deck through easy stakes you've already beat.

Grind isn't required, as we all know unlocks are readily available.

Originally posted by Wheelchair Murdura:
"Bu-bu but ever deck is differeeeeeent they have different challengeeeees! You have to leeeaarn" YES, that is exactly why we'd like to have fun and try ALL of that different content while still trying the hardest stakes we've reached, and while still unlocking jokers on our saves and not using a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ unlock all cheat.

Ask yourself why you argue against this and how it makes the game a worse experience for you.

How about doing one thing at a time? Play normal deck and unlock stuff as you go, and jump to your Unlock All profile if you want to see what a deck would play like in Green/Purple/Orange difficulty?

Sounds to me like you guys want your cake and eat it all, that ain't cool.
Wheelchair Murdura Feb 28, 2024 @ 12:27am 
Originally posted by Goblin:
But considering your opposition to disabling achievements on a separate save slot to get to play max difficulty, that's not enough for you is it?


Originally posted by SoulsDestiny:
Grind it if you want the achievements or don't.


Originally posted by Ronald Brain:
Originally posted by Wheelchair Murdura:

Grind isn't required, as we all know unlocks are readily available.

Originally posted by Wheelchair Murdura:
Ask yourself why you argue against this and how it makes the game a worse experience for you.

Sounds to me like you guys want your cake and eat it all, that ain't cool.


Guys I'm sorry but none of you seem to get the point at all. No one is asking for "easier achievements!! free points!! shiny stickers!!".. Who honestly cares about that?

Obviously none of you want to accept it but leveling all the decks takes hours and hours through levels you already beat with one, two or three other decks. It's NOT about it being too hard, it's NOT about ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ achievements or stickers that only you seem to covet so much. No one cares but you who are obviously super proud and I'm so proud of you too.

It's time, when half of the stakes are easy and so many decks it's unnecessary time to grind boring runs to level up each deck. You can reach blue/black stake without too much problem pretty quick if you just play one or two decks, which at the moment is a bad thing because the game actively promotes you to not try other decks if you want to continue upping the difficulty and unlocking more decks.

Why dont anyone of you go start a new save, play all 15 decks to only green stakes 15 * 3 runs if they're all straight wins, and come back saying it's not a tedious grind as soon as you get a good understanding of the game e.i after only 3-4 runs.

I don't think it's fun doing 30 free runs just to level 12 decks to the 4th highest difficulty, I'd rather lose 20 trying to beat it being able to try different/new decks and strategies without being sent back. People should be able to always pick a new deck and have a challenge if they've reached it.
Obviously you think the best solution is "if you don't like fun just cheat lol" but that is just a severe lack in reading comprehension if that is your take when people talk about this topic. I love to have fun, not cheat any content and have a constant challenge.

Why would anyone argue that you should be forced to play a song on guitar hero on easy, then medium, then hard, and then finally expert for every single new song, when you already can manage most of the previous ones on expert and prefer something hard and fun, a challenge.
Last edited by Wheelchair Murdura; Mar 22, 2024 @ 1:00pm
Goblin Feb 28, 2024 @ 12:43am 
You complain white stake is too easy to bother, nearly everyone else on the forum complains it's too hard. Go fight them first, then go 100% Binding of Isaac, and then you can come back and complain about grind.

I also note that your only retort to my suggestion was "i-it's not about achievements I swear". Great, then your reply should have been "good suggestion, this doesn't change the achievement at all and I don't care about achievements so this perfectly fixes my issue" yet it wasn't... Yeah I'm not inclined to believe you're sincere about how much you care.
Originally posted by Goblin:
You complain white stake is too easy to bother, nearly everyone else on the forum complains it's too hard. Go fight them first, then go 100% Binding of Isaac, and then you can come back and complain about grind.

I also note that your only retort to my suggestion was "i-it's not about achievements I swear". Great, then your reply should have been "good suggestion, this doesn't change the achievement at all and I don't care about achievements so this perfectly fixes my issue" yet it wasn't... Yeah I'm not inclined to believe you're sincere about how much you care.

What the hell don't you guys understand about people not wanting to cheat and unlock everything just to play at a harder level they've already reached? We just want to up the difficulty. Please qoute this sentence and tell me what you have a problem understanding. No one is asking for cheats, no one is asking for easy mode, and no one gives two shizz about your steam achievements.

Jesus christ these "counter arguments" are so dumb I don't know anymore. Why don't you argue every item should be unlocked separately for every character in binding of isaac eh? I don't have a problem with people finding this game hard at all no matter what stake they struggle with, do you have a problem reading? Why do you have a problem with someone finally managing to beat white for the first time and maybe struggled for hours, being able to try red right away with another deck?

"your only retort" yeah if you're blind and ignore every single question because you don't have a good answer things might seem that way for you.
Goblin Feb 28, 2024 @ 1:41am 
Originally posted by Wheelchair Murdura:
What the hell don't you guys understand about people not wanting to cheat and unlock everything just to play at a harder level they've already reached?
What part of "that's exactly what my suggestion fixes" do you not understand, my illiterate friend?
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