Is "royal flush" still in the game?

[_galaxy]

I'm only missing one planet on collections but that's the five of a kind. That would mean no royal flush planet.

EDIT: I can confirm haven gotten the royal flush myself. It can be any color (for some reason I thought it had to be hearts), it gives you an achievement and it does not show on the hands list unlike 5 of a kind. Because it doesn't show on the list you can't buy a planet for it. I do not know how much higher points it gives compared to a normal straight flush, but it does give more since it's the highest possible straight flush anyway.

I think the game just counts it as a straight flush and the levels from straight flush are applied to it.

[Goblin]

Originalmente postado por Ꝙ Ghosthunter Ꝙ:

Originalmente postado por Mega Man 7:

If you can crank out multiple Straight Flushes in a row consistently enough that this boss effect becomes a considerably detriment to you then you can probably afford to just finish cleaning it up with a non-flush straight, or a non-straight flush, with a High Card/Pair mixed in if you need the extra discard

It is still by definition a different hand type, so yeah it need to be added

What definition? A straight flush meets the description of straights and flushes, but there's zero definition in the game that Ace to 10 is special. It's just a straight.
And as AN said, it'd make everything worse. You'd need to level it separately, celestial packs would get more diluted, et cetera. There was already someone whining and refunding the game yesterday because their high level flush build lost when they "accidentally" made a straight flush.

[Coffee]

Originalmente postado por Goblin:

Originalmente postado por Ꝙ Ghosthunter Ꝙ:

It is still by definition a different hand type, so yeah it need to be added

What definition? A straight flush meets the description of straights and flushes, but there's zero definition in the game that Ace to 10 is special. It's just a straight.
And as AN said, it'd make everything worse. You'd need to level it separately, celestial packs would get more diluted, et cetera. There was already someone whining and refunding the game yesterday because their high level flush build lost when they "accidentally" made a straight flush.

Royal flush is still a hand of its own. Should be applied.

[Goblin]

Originalmente postado por Ꝙ Ghosthunter Ꝙ:

Royal flush is still a hand of its own. Should be applied.

No it isn't, and no it shouldn't. Now could you try using some actual arguments instead of just asserting a false statement repeatedly?

[Coffee]

Originalmente postado por Goblin:

Originalmente postado por Ꝙ Ghosthunter Ꝙ:

Royal flush is still a hand of its own. Should be applied.

No it isn't, and no it shouldn't. Now could you try using some actual arguments instead of just asserting a false statement repeatedly?

False statement? Dude, just read xD.

There's boss that require you to do unique hands.
Royal flush is one of them.

It's the only one missing.

Originalmente postado por Mega Man 7:

royal flush is just the highest-tier straight flush you can possibly make so it doesn't really need it's own planet card, it's still a straight flush even in regular poker.

This logic is heavily flawed considering we got a straight flush while it's still a flush or a straight.

A poker based game without one of the most iconic poker hand? LOL

[Melodia]

Originalmente postado por Ꝙ Ghosthunter Ꝙ:

A poker based game without one of the most iconic poker hand? LOL

"Royal Straight Flush"

[Pachislot Rockman Ability]

Originalmente postado por Ꝙ Ghosthunter Ꝙ:

This logic is heavily flawed considering we got a straight flush while it's still a flush or a straight.

A poker based game without one of the most iconic poker hand? LOL

Yes, a straight flush is two different hands at the same time. There is a specific mechanical reason to make it it's own hand type that can be buffed.

Royal Flush is iconic because it is the mathematically highest scoring poker hand - but it it's still a straight flush mechanically. It's just The Best Straight Flush.

Now sure, I think there should be an achievement for playing one, maybe the game gives a little fanfare and a bonus multiplier for you being able to pull it off, maybe the magnificence of it could let it ignore all boss gimmicks, etc. But that's up to the devs and how they want to balance it, and there is still no reason to program it in as a specific hand type. Like I said earlier, it'd be like programming in alternates of Pairs, Threes, and Four of a kind performed exclusively with aces. It's The Best Four Of A Kind! But it's still a four of a kind.

[kotamine]

Originalmente postado por Mega Man 7:

Now sure, I think there should be an achievement for playing one

There already is

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Originalmente postado por kotamine:

Originalmente postado por Mega Man 7:

Now sure, I think there should be an achievement for playing one

There already is

Then there you go, that's your acknowledgement.

[No Gibs, No Glory]

If they made it a separate hand with a separate planet card, that would mean that all of the planet card upgrades you get for straight flush wouldn't apply to royal flushes.

[Coffee]

Originalmente postado por No Gibs, No Glory:

If they made it a separate hand with a separate planet card, that would mean that all of the planet card upgrades you get for straight flush wouldn't apply to royal flushes.

Would be great to have.

[Pachislot Rockman Ability]

Originalmente postado por Ꝙ Ghosthunter Ꝙ:

Originalmente postado por No Gibs, No Glory:

If they made it a separate hand with a separate planet card, that would mean that all of the planet card upgrades you get for straight flush wouldn't apply to royal flushes.

Would be great to have.

it would strictly be a nerf in all honesty, I already don't pick the straight flush upgrade very often since it's already rare, one more even more niche card in the pool would just dilute it.

That said, I could see it as a Joker effect. some dramatic multiplier (the type that multiplies the current multiplier) if you to manage a specific royal flush. (Which I just learned the game does actually call it that, though pretty sure it's still using the Straight Flush upgrade level)

[Sir Yoshka]

Royal Flush is just a ten-to-ace Straight Flush and highest card in Poker (which is not a case in Balatro). With your logic Broadway Straight should be a separate hand too (ten-to-ace Straight), which is redundant.

[GonzoDog]

Originalmente postado por AN:

No, making a royal flush its own hand type would make it worthless. And it's still just the highest value straight flush, there's nothing mechanically different about it, unlike a flush five or flush house. It's a terrible idea to make it a separate hand from straight flush.

Have you ever played Video Poker or Poker. .... It's absolutely more difficult to make than a straight flush, and that's why the payouts are massive for a Royal... For example, on a 6/5 pay table a Straight Flush would be 250 coins on 5 coins and a Royal would be 4000.... It's usually 5 times the payrate for a Royal compared to any other straight flush.

Royal Flush – 0.000154% (649,739-to-1 odds against)
Straight Flush – 0.00139% (72,192-to-1)

[GonzoDog]

Originalmente postado por No Gibs, No Glory:

If they made it a separate hand with a separate planet card, that would mean that all of the planet card upgrades you get for straight flush wouldn't apply to royal flushes.

Planet cards should apply to both of a straight flush and a royal then... With the reward greater for a Royal

[Pachislot Rockman Ability]

You also can't stack your deck with multiple extra face cards, change suits to wild, and delete lesser cards from the deck in order to boost your odds. Yes getting a Royal Flush in Balatro is still more difficult but it doesn't really need to be worth more since you have many mechanics to try and make a very straight/flush/straight flush-friendly deck strategy, and it's probably easier to do that with face cards due to multiple mechanics which specifically give face cards or aces from tarot cards and whatnot.

Also, it's just a different game in general.

Edit: oh and planet cards do apply to royal flushes the same as straight flushes, part of this whole thread was "Why is there not specifically a royal flush with it's own planet card"