Verdant Leaf in Jokerless challenge

[Nothing]

That boss should definitely not appear in this challenge, it's really dumb to have a purely planet/tarot based challenge and then disabling all the enhancments you've amassed during the run. I still managed to clear it because the pure stats from my flushes were strong enough, but it's completely unfair to have it as a final boss in an already unreasonable challenge.

[Ronald Brain]

Challenges are still luck based, that's why some tags aren't fully disabled, as they're there to ensure you don't get better tags from a smaller pool. Take Director / Director's Cut as a safety measure, or simply level up your hand so you don't over-relying on enhancements.

[Nothing]

Originally posted by Ronald Brain:

Challenges are still luck based, that's why some tags aren't fully disabled, as they're there to ensure you don't get better tags from a smaller pool. Take Director / Director's Cut as a safety measure, or simply level up your hand so you don't over-relying on enhancements.

All the tags regarding to jokers are disabled in this challenge, with the only exceptions being that one voucher is not banned and the fact that Temperance and Wheel of Fortune can still appear in tarot packs. That is completely different than "Oops rolled a 1/5 at the end of the challenge guess I lose", rerolls are not guaranteed, you might literally not see enough planet packs to level your hand enough, would you still defend the challenge if it was "At the beggining of the Ante, 10% to end your run" because that's closer to what is actually happening here then the issue with a few cards.

[goobie snoobert]

Originally posted by Ronald Brain:

Challenges are still luck based, that's why some tags aren't fully disabled, as they're there to ensure you don't get better tags from a smaller pool. Take Director / Director's Cut as a safety measure, or simply level up your hand so you don't over-relying on enhancements.

what's it like, defending blatant oversights and pretending like the dev can literally do no wrong?

[bkcshah]

Well as someone who got the disable random joker boss on ante 8, system is perfect

[malogoss]

I'm with OP on this one.

There's also a challenge where all jokers are eternal. Guess what final boss I got, the first time I made it there?

Of course, Verdant Leaf. So I lost.

That challenge isn't as bad as Jokerless, but it still felt a bit bad.

[sab0t]

yeah this just seems like an oversight to me.

[Nsign]

This just ruined my Jokerless run. Final boss, played nothing but 5oak aces, still lost. Incredibly lame.