Joker debuff possible oversight

[Pines]

I had a run go to the Crimson Heart blind. The joker it debuffed was uncommon and I had the baseball card. Based on the way the jokers work on debuffed cards, I assumed the baseball card would not gain 1.5x mult from the uncommon but to my surprise it did. Is this an oversight or on purpose?

[malogoss]

First of all, Baseball card does not gain 1.5x itself, it gives 1.5x to all your uncommon jokers. This could look like a detail, but the consequence it that joker placement is not affected in the same way. You want uncommon jokers to the right end. Baseball can be anywhere.

To answer your question, you had a debuffed uncommon joker. Say it was Bull, then Bull did not add chips to the hand you played as it normally would. However, it's still an uncommon joker. Baseball still can and will target it.

Sounds a bit strange even for me while I'm explaining it, but that's just how it is.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Pines]

I mean, I just don't think baseball card should proc on a debuffed uncommon. Think of how a suit joker works on a debuffed card, even though the card is a spade or something it doesn't gain 4 mult because its debuffed. I would've assumed the same for any debuffed jokers, any abilitys they have *and* any abilities that proc off them would be disabled.

[DirtCheap]

Yeah, this interaction between Baseball Card and debuffed jokers seems like an oversight, since Baseball Card is the only joker that activates on other jokers.
https://balatrogame.fandom.com/wiki/Activation_Type#On_Other_Jokers
Since no other effects act like this, debuffed jokers are probably coded to disable its effect and its edition, leaving this edge case.

For balance reasons it may be OK to leave it like this -- crimson heart is already one of the two worst finals bosses, on par with violet vessel (the wall final boss). Usually the average effect of disabling a random joker is worst than 1/3x for high card strategies, and even on one big scoring hand (one-shot) strategies usually 3/5 jokers are no-go when selected by crimson heart.