Best starting tags?

[S♥ShiMe]

Whats the best 2 starting tags to skip for? Respectively for each Stakes?
I tend to lean towards free shop, handsize, or free tarots. Up till Gold.

[Amplify]

These are all for the first tag:
S tier: Free shop / Holographic joker
A tier: Foil joker / Poly joker / Uncommon joker
B tier: Rare joker / Mega tarot pack
F tier: Any other tags that can spawn in ante 1.

A combination of tags can improve them, for example a rare free joker would be worth skipping both for.

[Headywon | Figure Collecting]

Unless you are going for the speedrun cheevos I wouldn't suggest early skips at all

[Amplify]

Originally posted by Headywon | Figure Collecting:

Unless you are going for the speedrun cheevos I wouldn't suggest early skips at all

Why wouldn't you? On red stake and above you don't get any money for beating the small blind anyway so it's almost worthless to do the ante 1 small blind, and you can guarantee yourself a nice tag. What's not to like?

[Headywon | Figure Collecting]

Originally posted by Amplify:

Originally posted by Headywon | Figure Collecting:

Unless you are going for the speedrun cheevos I wouldn't suggest early skips at all

Why wouldn't you? On red stake and above you don't get any money for beating the small blind anyway so it's almost worthless to do the ante 1 small blind, and you can guarantee yourself a nice tag. What's not to like?

You still get paid for leftover hands, and you can get enough money to get a Joker after the first small blind... every skip makes the game more difficult because you are missing out on everything available at the store. My usual starting M.O. is to beat the first small blind in one hand (high strait, high flush, 4 of a kind, high-ish full house), get a Joker that increases chips/mult, beat the first large blind in one hand, possibly get a good second Joker, beat the first boss in one hand, and possibly snag a Spectral or Voucher along the way

[Amplify]

Originally posted by Headywon | Figure Collecting:

Originally posted by Amplify:

Why wouldn't you? On red stake and above you don't get any money for beating the small blind anyway so it's almost worthless to do the ante 1 small blind, and you can guarantee yourself a nice tag. What's not to like?

You still get paid for leftover hands, and you can get enough money to get a Joker after the first small blind... every skip makes the game more difficult because you are missing out on everything available at the store. My usual starting M.O. is to beat the first small blind in one hand (high strait, high flush, 4 of a kind, high-ish full house), get a Joker that increases chips/mult, beat the first large blind in one hand, possibly get a good second Joker, beat the first boss in one hand, and possibly snag a Spectral or Voucher along the way

That's trash reasoning, 95% of shops are bad and that's even moreso when you have little money. Skipping for a good tag makes a huge difference in comparison.

[Headywon | Figure Collecting]

Originally posted by Amplify:

Originally posted by Headywon | Figure Collecting:

You still get paid for leftover hands, and you can get enough money to get a Joker after the first small blind... every skip makes the game more difficult because you are missing out on everything available at the store. My usual starting M.O. is to beat the first small blind in one hand (high strait, high flush, 4 of a kind, high-ish full house), get a Joker that increases chips/mult, beat the first large blind in one hand, possibly get a good second Joker, beat the first boss in one hand, and possibly snag a Spectral or Voucher along the way

That's trash reasoning, 95% of shops are bad and that's even moreso when you have little money. Skipping for a good tag makes a huge difference in comparison.

I hope you work out your skill issues at some point, I suggest watching some Balatro University videos

[Amplify]

Originally posted by Headywon | Figure Collecting:

Originally posted by Amplify:

That's trash reasoning, 95% of shops are bad and that's even moreso when you have little money. Skipping for a good tag makes a huge difference in comparison.

I hope you work out your skill issues at some point, I suggest watching some Balatro University videos :TCS_Cheers:

Every comment you've been making in this and other threads has shown me pretty clearly you have no clue what you're talking about and just reply with something along the lines of "skill issue" when you have nothing of value to say, which is most of the time.

[Headywon | Figure Collecting]

Originally posted by Amplify:

Originally posted by Headywon | Figure Collecting:

I hope you work out your skill issues at some point, I suggest watching some Balatro University videos

Every comment you've been making in this and other threads has shown me pretty clearly you have no clue what you're talking about and just reply with something along the lines of "skill issue" when you have nothing of value to say, which is most of the time.

[Amie]

Anything that gives you money or makes the next shop free, plus anything that makes good jokers spawn in the shop. Being able to afford or get a free good joker early is really helpful.

[S♥ShiMe]

Originally posted by Amie:

Anything that gives you money or makes the next shop free, plus anything that makes good jokers spawn in the shop. Being able to afford or get a free good joker early is really helpful.

Originally posted by Amplify:

These are all for the first tag:
S tier: Free shop / Holographic joker
A tier: Foil joker / Poly joker / Uncommon joker
B tier: Rare joker / Mega tarot pack
F tier: Any other tags that can spawn in ante 1.

A combination of tags can improve them, for example a rare free joker would be worth skipping both for.

i tried going for a combination of free shop + 1 type of joker Holographic/Uncommon if possible, i also do think Rare/Poly is quite bad at ante 2. Currently i think that is the only good way to get many jokers and up the econ at ante 2.

I have had luck with double tarots though (2 hermit 2 judgement), instant 16 starting gold and free jokers. This pushed me quite far ahead in the run.

I have to say the best joker ante 2 are "Joker" "Half-Joker" "Misprint". this seriously can make you hand stabilize long enough till something else comes along.

Originally posted by Headywon | Figure Collecting:

Originally posted by Amplify:

Why wouldn't you? On red stake and above you don't get any money for beating the small blind anyway so it's almost worthless to do the ante 1 small blind, and you can guarantee yourself a nice tag. What's not to like?

You still get paid for leftover hands, and you can get enough money to get a Joker after the first small blind... every skip makes the game more difficult because you are missing out on everything available at the store. My usual starting M.O. is to beat the first small blind in one hand (high strait, high flush, 4 of a kind, high-ish full house), get a Joker that increases chips/mult, beat the first large blind in one hand, possibly get a good second Joker, beat the first boss in one hand, and possibly snag a Spectral or Voucher along the way

Play all blinds at ante 1 has advantages, but higher risks. Whereas Skipping both blinds and going to boss only waste a bit of time if you cant beat it and get all the rewards at Ante 2, generally i think its better than chancing at both Ante 1 blinds. most of the time you won't have the money to buy anything anyways.

You can still choose to sell something if the joker sucks to get some of the econ back, at higher stakes, i think the amount of gold/interest you can net will be the same as skipping both blinds.

Both have their advantages i feel, Black and above has serious risk of getting 2 eternals (for free) after skipping, which destroys the run.

[brickey.8]

Originally posted by Amplify:

These are all for the first tag:
S tier: Free shop / Holographic joker
A tier: Foil joker / Poly joker / Uncommon joker
B tier: Rare joker / Mega tarot pack
F tier: Any other tags that can spawn in ante 1.

A combination of tags can improve them, for example a rare free joker would be worth skipping both for.

I would add in "Gain $15 after the boss" at A tier and Double Tag at A or B; they don't help right away but will lead to a stronger run in ante 2 or 3. "Rerolls start a 0" is maybe C tier--it's bad, but more likely to help than $3. If you're actually trying for winrate I'd push Poly Joker down to B tier since there's a risk you can't afford it, but at this point you can just reset.