Card Statuses

[fbane]

Curious how someone plays a round when you either have debuffed cards or the cards are upside down and you can't see them.

[Goblin]

Debuffed: either have mainly jokers that don't rely on specific cards to activate and enough +chips from joker/planet, or play cards that aren't debuffed. If all cards are debuffed you get to pick between the first method, and selling the joker that is causing all cards to be debuffed. If it's because you turned your entire deck into something without having the boss reroll, you messed up.
Upside down: use the sort buttons to try and make out information about the cards, especially doable if you have some face up cards as well. Alternatively, use a tarot card from your inventory that modifies a number of cards, they will turn face side up for the duration of the animation where they change. For the boss that gives face down cards after you play, try to alternate between playing and discarding since the latter gives face side up ones.

[sab0t]

it really depends on how far along / how strong of a build i have going. if things are going really well, i can play a full hand of debuffed cards and still win from jokers buffing the base amounts from the hand level. in terms of flipped cards i can't see, if there are only a few, i will use the rank / suit sorting options to try and determine what they're likely to be. if I have lots of discards / hands to play, I might discard the flipped cards, or even play a "junk" hand to get rid of them.

if my build is NOT going so well, i like to hang onto the suit changing tarot cards for bosses that debuff suits. if i don't have those tarot, i will be less likely to try and play the debuffed cards, unless i really need them to make a certain type of hand.

so yeah basically it really depends.

[srn347]

There used to be a trick where swapping a face-up card and an adjacent face-down card and sorting would swap them back unless they were identical, but it seems they've patched it to always swap back regardless (I guess after suit and rank there's an invisible tiebreaker, based on draw order or something). Still, there's a lot of scouting possible.

As for debuffed cards, they can't trigger their own abilities or any joker abilities but can still be used for pairs/flushes/etc. One important interaction worth knowing: raised fist takes the card with the lowest rank, ties broken by rightmost. If the rightmost one is debuffed, swap it so it uses the non-debuffed one.

[Winter Wolf]

Originally posted by Goblin:

Debuffed: either have mainly jokers that don't rely on specific cards to activate and enough +chips from joker/planet, or play cards that aren't debuffed. If all cards are debuffed you get to pick between the first method, and selling the joker that is causing all cards to be debuffed. If it's because you turned your entire deck into something without having the boss reroll, you messed up.
Upside down: use the sort buttons to try and make out information about the cards, especially doable if you have some face up cards as well. Alternatively, use a tarot card from your inventory that modifies a number of cards, they will turn face side up for the duration of the animation where they change. For the boss that gives face down cards after you play, try to alternate between playing and discarding since the latter gives face side up ones.

Keep in mind, OP, if you try to reveal a card via tarot use, you need to slow the game down to minimum (x.5) so that the images actually display and don't just blink.

[Draco18s]

Debuffed: generally I just discard them and work around it, but occasionally I'll play them because a full house with one debuffed card is better than a two pair.

I did finish off a blind yesterday by playing a hand of five debuffed cards and relied solely on the benefits of jokers (it was also a straight flush, so, a pretty strong start).

For face down cards, you can generally work out some information just by switching between Rank sort and Suit sort, and can pull together a Flush pretty easily. Actually played five face down cards the other day and got a straight (gave me the idea of a joker unlock condition and joker name, though I don't know what it would do yet).

Originally posted by Winter Wolf:

Keep in mind, OP, if you try to reveal a card via tarot use, you need to slow the game down to minimum (x.5) so that the images actually display and don't just blink.

I play on 2X and don't have that issue.

[Headywon | Figure Collecting]

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