You Instantly lose when your deck is exhausted!

[Narcotic Ice]

I wasn't aware of this :<
Beware future endless players!

Deck size was 9. I entered the boss with Juggle Tag (+ 3 hand size) and paint brush (+ 1 hand size). Discarded 1 card (drew nothing), played a 5 flush (drew nothing) then discarded the rest and instantly lost.
Is this intentional or a bug?

[The Renderer]

Your deck doesn't get reshuffled, you only have what you have. Not a bug.

[Narcotic Ice]

Thanks, I thought it would reshuffle.

[Goblin]

[BUG] My HP hit 0 and my character died

Yes, it's intentional.

[Narcotic Ice]

Originally posted by Goblin:

[BUG] My HP hit 0 and my character died :lunar2020gigglemonkey:

Yes, it's intentional.

I mean most deck building rogue-lite games reshuffle your deck after you play all your cards.
So it's not as intuitive as HP...

[Ronald Brain]

Originally posted by Narcotic Ice:

I mean most deck building rogue-lite games reshuffle your deck after you play all your cards.
So it's not as intuitive as HP... :winter2019happyyul:

More like you use up all of your heal item and expect a refill. Not working with Balatro, since you could thin your deck to about 10 super strong cards, reshuffling means you get to use them over and over. Same reason Gold / Blue Sticker was changed so cards don't return to your hand after played, this effect was too broken and could cause players to get stuck with bad cards.

[Narcotic Ice]

Originally posted by Ronald Brain:

More like you use up all of your heal item and expect a refill. Not working with Balatro, since you could thin your deck to about 10 super strong cards, reshuffling means you get to use them over and over. Same reason Gold / Blue Sticker was changed so cards don't return to your hand after played, this effect was too broken and could cause players to get stuck with bad cards.

Comparing your deck to health makes no sense. You are not taking damage. You are not "healing" when you play your cards. All these comparisons to health aren't intuitive. Yes reshuffling means you get to play your good cards over and over, but at the cost of slimming your deck down to a very low number. Getting your deck to a very low amount isn't an easy thing to do. A lot of deck building cards have synergies with getting your deck to a low amount of cards so you can play your good cards.

[Zelakon]

It seems to me you're used to deckbuilding roguelike video games, but not the competitive trading card games by which they were inspired.

And if your deck runs out of cards in any of those, just like in Balatro, you lose; hence why it would be a balancing act between thinning your deck as much as possible to increase chances of drawing the combos you want, and not running too much of a risk of exhausting your deck and losing.

[Ronald Brain]

Originally posted by Narcotic Ice:

Comparing your deck to health makes no sense. You are not taking damage. You are not "healing" when you play your cards. All these comparisons to health aren't intuitive. Yes reshuffling means you get to play your good cards over and over, but at the cost of slimming your deck down to a very low number. Getting your deck to a very low amount isn't an easy thing to do. A lot of deck building cards have synergies with getting your deck to a low amount of cards so you can play your good cards.

Slimming your deck down has absolutely NO downside because with the default discard and hand, you get to see 35 out of 52 cards in your deck (or 40, with Abandoned Deck). Trimming is easy enough if you hit Hangman and Immolate, coupled with vouchers and your deck is easily used in full. This is the reason no shuffling is a thing.

[Narcotic Ice]

Originally posted by Scholar Asleep:

It seems to me you're used to deckbuilding roguelike video games, but not the competitive trading card games by which they were inspired.

And if your deck runs out of cards in any of those, just like in Balatro, you lose; hence why it would be a balancing act between thinning your deck as much as possible to increase chances of drawing the combos you want, and not running too much of a risk of exhausting your deck and losing.

Yeah I understand. It just shocked me since I was too used to playing games like StS.

[Narcotic Ice]

Originally posted by Ronald Brain:

Originally posted by Narcotic Ice:

Comparing your deck to health makes no sense. You are not taking damage. You are not "healing" when you play your cards. All these comparisons to health aren't intuitive. Yes reshuffling means you get to play your good cards over and over, but at the cost of slimming your deck down to a very low number. Getting your deck to a very low amount isn't an easy thing to do. A lot of deck building cards have synergies with getting your deck to a low amount of cards so you can play your good cards.

Slimming your deck down has absolutely NO downside because with the default discard and hand, you get to see 35 out of 52 cards in your deck (or 40, with Abandoned Deck). Trimming is easy enough if you hit Hangman and Immolate, coupled with vouchers and your deck is easily used in full. This is the reason no shuffling is a thing.

I drew my whole hand every round ante 14 was the limit. I could have won off of the high cards instead of discarding them if I knew about the losing condition.

[aub]

in actual poker wouldn't the deck just get reshuffled

[a horse's ass]

Originally posted by aub:

in actual poker wouldn't the deck just get reshuffled

Yes but the developer proudly goes around town saying he's never played never a single game of poker despite having sold the game as a "poker roguelike".

[Melodia]

Originally posted by aub:

in actual poker wouldn't the deck just get reshuffled

This isn't quite the same as running out of cards in a poker game with multiple people where the game itself needs to continue to keep it fair to everyone.

[Winter Wolf]

I suspect this carries over from other card games like Magic the gathering.

[Ricey, Professional 70's Pimp]

Originally posted by Narcotic Ice:

Thanks, I thought it would reshuffle.

I didn't know this either, good to know for the future!