patch nerfed Trading Card - what else?

[TARTrazine]

The Trading Card joker was nerfed (now only gives $3 for destroy-discarding a card instead of $5) in a recent patch. Was anything else changed?

[Ronald Brain]

For of a Kind gets buffed from 60 x 5 to 60 x 7, a good change if anyone asks me.

[Sir Yoshka]

Were Aces always 11 chips? I though there were always 10 chips.

[Cage2k4]

Originally posted by Sir Yoshka:

Were Aces always 11 chips? I though there were always 10 chips.

No it been changed in this patch

---ADDITIONAL CHANGES I NOTICED---
--When playing THE MOUTH, it will notify you at the top if the hand will not score instead of giving you a warning when you attempt to play the hand
--Green Joker now displays its additional/subtraction whenever cards are played/discarded according
--Blue seal now gives a planet card whenever held in hand at the end of a blind instead of returning to hand
--Spare trousers and the bull has been made uncommon
--The order in which jokers appear in the collection has been revamped, specifically having the Suit multipliers appear beside each other

[Cage2k4]

Personal thoughts on update:

They made good changes with the updates when it came to the Four of a kind, and small niche changes such as the Ace giving 11 are a nice tough, Four of a kind buff is definately warrented

The blue seal card being changed i can see happening as it doesnt really feel being used in play much, Usually you want to finish a blind within the first/second hand, so having cards return back to hand isnt that useful beside niche circumstances, Though i havent found much use for myself to run the blue seal at any given time in the demo, i dont think it compares to the others seals, which give so much more versatility and power that is warrented from getting them through the Spectral packs, the seal feels more like a joker gimmick than a proper seal

I think the nerf on Trading card is warrented, It allows you to thin once every blind and get money for it, it not meant to be earning you constant money like other jokers, if you were to get this from blind one and use it every blind onward, that is --15 cards removed-- and --75 gold earned (before patch)-- --45 gold (after patch)--
I still would think that it should be reverted back despite this, as i personally think it feels more satisfying when you get that bit more money and that it wasent as big of a deal to nerf compared to OBELISKK

Typing this i think that the business card joker from the previous demo should be buffed or made common compared to Reserved Parking joker, the Reserved Parking joker is far more powerful money maker than business card, as the strategy for reserved joker is to not play your best hand untill the last second you can with the face cards saved up stacking money, business card requires you play the face cards for a one in two chance for gold, which would work well if you builded up a face deck, but you dont even need to do it for the reserved parking joker, you can discard regular cards, get your face cards, and then just play one dull card with like 6 face cards earning you money

HERE AN EXAMPLE: standard deck with 12 face with 4 hands, and you get the most FACEIEST hands, and that each card gets half of the amount of faces

Business card: the most optimal hand play is 3 four of a kinds, with the respective King, Queen and Jack, that is 12 face cards, for an average of 6 gold, okayish, and that assumes you dont win from 3 four of a kinds, we can also do Two two pairs and one four of a kind to make it likely we use all the cards, on average 6

Now reserved parking get in here, and their hand is 7 faces and one random card, they play the random card for 4 hands getting them 12 gold, that over double for just delaying and playing all cards, Way stronger than the business card by a stretch, reserved parking can play it own purchase and a surplus within ONE BLIND, it is that good, and to imagine this card used to not be a 1 in 2 chance for gold... :000

[Ronald Brain]

Originally posted by Cage2k4:

Personal thoughts on update:
Now reserved parking get in here, and their hand is 7 faces and one random card, they play the random card for 4 hands getting them 12 gold, that over double for just delaying and playing all cards, Way stronger than the business card by a stretch, reserved parking can play it own purchase and a surplus within ONE BLIND, it is that good, and to imagine this card used to not be a 1 in 2 chance for gold... :000

I was pretty certain Reverse Parking used to be 1 in 2 chance to earn $1 per face card in hand, same with Business card (for playing face cards). Either way, both should have the same effect: Either 1-in-2 chance or guarantee $1 / $2, because it's less fun to keep digging face cards for a random chance to earn money (So far, ALL other moneymaking Jokers/Tarots are guaranteed, I don't understand why Business Card is the only one to be random chance lol)

Also There's a joker that make the game think all cards are face cards, which will definitely be busted when paired with Reverse Parking and Business Card.

[korean cookbook]

Fibonacci got a massive buff, from +4 to +8 mult.

[Cage2k4]

Originally posted by oo7li:

Fibonacci got a massive buff, from +4 to +8 mult.

Indeed it did, however they are refering to the recent silent update the game got to it

[Cage2k4]

Originally posted by Ronald Brain:

Originally posted by Cage2k4:

Personal thoughts on update:
Now reserved parking get in here, and their hand is 7 faces and one random card, they play the random card for 4 hands getting them 12 gold, that over double for just delaying and playing all cards, Way stronger than the business card by a stretch, reserved parking can play it own purchase and a surplus within ONE BLIND, it is that good, and to imagine this card used to not be a 1 in 2 chance for gold... :000

I was pretty certain Reverse Parking used to be 1 in 2 chance to earn $1 per face card in hand, same with Business card (for playing face cards). Either way, both should have the same effect: Either 1-in-2 chance or guarantee $1 / $2, because it's less fun to keep digging face cards for a random chance to earn money (So far, ALL other moneymaking Jokers/Tarots are guaranteed, I don't understand why Business Card is the only one to be random chance lol)

Also There's a joker that make the game think all cards are face cards, which will definitely be busted when paired with Reverse Parking and Business Card.

Reserved Parking in the Invitational tournament was initally GUARENTEED to give you $1, it was changed to a 1 in 2 from when the people in the tournament abused it with a insane gold gain, combine with the one that makes EVERY card a FACE card

I think the randomness is warrented in the reserved parkings, the mean average of 3.5$ gained per hand played (by having the ideal 7 cards of face cards lying in your hand), the randomness is outweighted by the probable money gain that far surpasses the golden joker and to-do list, being outclasses by delayed gratifcation

Compared to the business cards requirements of needing to play scoring hands and gaining 2.5$ (assume all five scoring cards being face cards) and it is certainly not on par with it brother in arms, I definately dont think it should be made better, but i think it should be put into common, as reserved parking has alot better uses and is far more profitable than it brother


These cards dont synergise well together, unless your combining it with the one that makes all card face cards, but then your using 3 cards for money and having two left for your score/other strategys

[malogoss]

I'm beginning to wonder if the glass cards have been nerfed but their description hasn't been updated.

Previous demo I played for 40 hours or so, I used glass cards a lot, sometimes they broke, but it felt like 1 in 4, with some lucky streaks and some bad streaks. Of course I did not keep stats on it.

In this demo, I swear, glass cards have been breaking a lot more. At this point I'm tempted to start keeping stats.