No Royal Flush please

[moisole]

I've seen somewhere that a Royal Flush is planned. I think this shouldn't be the case. The Royal Flush is not a new hand, it's just an ace-high straight flush. If we're counting this separately, then we should count "Four Aces" separately from "Four of a Kind", and so on, and that's a can of worms.
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[Melodia]

While you're technically correct, a Royal being separate from other Straight Flushes is a pretty standard thing. For instance, play ANY video poker game and you will get a MUCH higher payout for a Royal. And in cash games there's often a prize for getting one. Etc etc.

[Ace High]

It still scores as a straight flush. It just has a special name. No harm no foul.

[derw4tz]

i think what he is afraid of is that it will dilute the planetary deck, which i think is a fair point

[moisole]

Originally posted by derw4tz:

i think what he is afraid of is that it will dilute the planetary deck, which i think is a fair point

Yes, that's the main concern :)

[Unlimited]

Yep no need for "royal SF" if there is no point to it. (like in poker)

[Airkixer]

The Royal SF already scores higher technically, as it's using 5 cards worth 10 chips compared to a lesser straight flush. Do agree that diluting the planetary cards further JUST for this would be not great.

[Drillbert]

Originally posted by moisole:

Originally posted by derw4tz:

i think what he is afraid of is that it will dilute the planetary deck, which i think is a fair point

Yes, that's the main concern :)

True, but the royal flush planet will only show up once you get one, which is fair in my opinion. You could really build for it, like you can for flush houses.

[Goblin]

Originally posted by Drillbert:

Originally posted by moisole:

Yes, that's the main concern :)

True, but the royal flush planet will only show up once you get one, which is fair in my opinion. You could really build for it, like you can for flush houses.

That would still be bad. You're arbitrarily removing a possible hand from straight flushes, which are already hard to get usually, or two if you implement the wheel as well. Plus now constellation scaling wouldn't work anymore for those hands, and you won't get the planet you want with the voucher that guarantees your most played hand in most cases.
As Airkixer already said, the hand already scores higher by nature. If you want to boost that a little extra, that's fine, but don't make it count as a different hand.

That said, I could swear it's already listed as a Royal Flush in the current demo, but not counted as a separate hand, so I assume the dev already understands this issue. I haven't done a straight flush run myself but you can see it in Aliensrock's latest video on the game, and while his editors add a lot of little details I doubt they'd add that.

[ShloKnight]

So.... here's the thing. In the game currently, it does pop up as, "Royal Flush". I believe this is simply to add clarity to jokers and achievements that care about royal flushes, as, in nearly every way, it is mechanically the same as every other straight flush. I'm guessing you're hearing rumors about them making the royal flush a distinction for certain cases (like certain jokers and achievements) and getting confused there. I really doubt that they'll add a new planet card for it.

[Unlimited]

After many days of letting this topic "sinks", an idea could be to create only one reward line for "an impossible hand" (that regroups most of the more powerful) that could be placed over the "straight flush" for max points (and boosted if wanted by a new planet card maybe or the number of them in a special bonus way...) to incentivize a greatly transformed deck from time to time (having got any beside 1 F-FH & 1 Makeshfit SF with special jokers in 35h+ of playing)

Could be "(maybe not) makeshift straight flush (too easy with a certain joker?!)" + "Royal Straight-Flush (not impossible but the top-very-rare-one that seems like it XD ) "5 of a kind" + " full flush house" + "Flush 4 of a kind" + "(maybe) Flush 3 of a kind" here (depending of the stats, with the same order of rarity or a very high-based one, and the scoring with the chips and multiplier of that)... you see the gist of it.

Could also be a "bonus" to a hand (chips and/or mult), that could scale well with minor ones (like "flush pair" with 1 multi-color card, and "flush 2 pairs") that maybe add a certain amount to the score .... but seems redondant.

Maybe even for the major ones adding two line of scoring (like flush + full house for a Flush FH, 3 + 4 of a kind score for "5 of the same", straight + flush scores for a makeshift S-F. etc...) but could be a bit incoherent... the simpler the better IMO.

[tanner449]

I mean couldn't they just make a different planet card just to build on royal flush cuz I love royal flush

[baconcow]

I thought there already was a Royal Flush planet?

[Minueling]

Originally posted by Goblin:

Originally posted by Drillbert:

True, but the royal flush planet will only show up once you get one, which is fair in my opinion. You could really build for it, like you can for flush houses.

That would still be bad. You're arbitrarily removing a possible hand from straight flushes, which are already hard to get usually, or two if you implement the wheel as well. Plus now constellation scaling wouldn't work anymore for those hands, and you won't get the planet you want with the voucher that guarantees your most played hand in most cases.
As Airkixer already said, the hand already scores higher by nature. If you want to boost that a little extra, that's fine, but don't make it count as a different hand.

That said, I could swear it's already listed as a Royal Flush in the current demo, but not counted as a separate hand, so I assume the dev already understands this issue. I haven't done a straight flush run myself but you can see it in Aliensrock's latest video on the game, and while his editors add a lot of little details I doubt they'd add that.

So, not sure if this is still being discussed, but as someone who has experimented with royal flush, it doesn't seem like there is a planet card for it. It actually scales 1/1 with straight flush's level, which if things stay this way, is pretty cool. It makes it so you don't really need to go all in on the royal flush, and can go straight flushes too. Though, the royal flush still scales much better.

[Yggdrasil Burnes]

I haven't actually drawn one yet, but are Steel Wheel's a secret hand in here too? It's just the opposite of a Royal Flush, A2345.

[Adam Beckett]

I just read this thread and do not understand what the 'issue' is.

I just played this game for the first time, and in my first 'boss fight' (the third game) of the initial 1 2 3, I was able to work towards a "Royal Flush" and got it.

It was exciting.

Why not allow it to be in the game?

Because of 'Poker rules'? Which ones?

To my understanding this is a video game, not a digital poker game. The developers are free to make up their own rules or associate their design with existing rules, the way they want to. Turning this into a poker player reddit (or compuserve newgroup) discussion, because one person has imaginary issues with the rulebook or semantics - how is this productive?