[Spoiler] Why did the Camerata leave the Transistor at the scene?

[onagova]

I'm not an english speaker so I don't quite get all the plot of this game so I've tried to read around some of the discussion posts.

Here is what I understand (which might be wrong).
-The Camerata is a group of 4 people, headed by the city admin Grant.
-The Camerata dislike the way that the city is constantly shifting because it always gives ways for the old problem to repeats itself. (Is this what the quote "When everythig changes, Nothing Changes." means?)

-So they tried to solve this problem once and for all by using the Transistor and the Process to reserve the city in it traditional form.
-To do that they need to gather the city most influnece and unique "voices". (Why do they need that? To power the Transistor?)

So they plan is good so far but why did they leave the Transistor at the scene where thay tried to intregrated Red? And why they can only consumed her voice?

That's the part I don't get and I think it is the very improtant part that ruined the Camerata's plan and progess the plot.

Can anyone please give me the explanation to that and correct me where I'm wrong. Thanks guy.

[Eibon]

The goal of the Camerata was to provide a new template for the Process to use to build the city. The Transistor always existed, Royce simply found it, and the Transistor is an interface that allows someone to either Override the Process directives manually, or give them an entirely new template by placing it in the Cradle.

The Camerata didn't like the way the city evolved, but the people didn't, so their plan was to absorb influential people that could create a template for the Process to build the perfect city for the people to evolve in.

When they attacked Red, the Transistor sort of...warped them away, for whatever reason. The reason it teleported them is likely due to Red's partner's interference, as he was absorbed into the Transistor.

[Aeralis]

I'm still working out the finer points of this myself, so I'm not 100% certain. But I do know that, for whatever reason, technical ownership of the Transistor switched from the Camerata to Red after the attack. It's stated somewhere that the previous User logged out and the new User (Red) logged in at the time of Mr. Nobody's death.

Since Red was then the Transistor's User (owner), the Camerata probably COULDN'T take it back. Even if they tried, they most likely wouldn't be able to use it at all until Red relinquished control. This would be why Sybil spends a lot of her fight pleading you to give back the Transistor rather than just taking it back by force.

The only thing I gotta figure out is why ownership transferred in the first place. Maybe Mr. Nobody changed it after being integrated?

[lyricasty]

Basically.

Sybil Brings the Camerata back stage.

Her personal intent is to deal with Red/her lover cause she wants Red.

Cue Transistor aimed at Red

'Breach' takes the hit.

Breach and Red are teleported a ways away with the transistor.

Why this happens is anyone's guess. I personally think it's probably a matter of the transistor being specificallt programmed to do X and instead it's abruptly made to do Y

[Eibon]

Originally posted by Aeralis:

I'm still working out the finer points of this myself, so I'm not 100% certain. But I do know that, for whatever reason, technical ownership of the Transistor switched from the Camerata to Red after the attack. It's stated somewhere that the previous User logged out and the new User (Red) logged in at the time of Mr. Nobody's death.

Since Red was then the Transistor's User (owner), the Camerata probably COULDN'T take it back. Even if they tried, they most likely wouldn't be able to use it at all until Red relinquished control. This would be why Sybil spends a lot of her fight pleading you to give back the Transistor rather than just taking it back by force.

The only thing I gotta figure out is why ownership transferred in the first place. Maybe Mr. Nobody changed it after being integrated?

I don't think there's such a thing as the Transistor being bound to a certain person - rather, I think it just makes whoever is in possession of it a User. Thus, when someone is not possessing it, and a new person comes into possession, it has a new user "logged in."

[Eiphel]

Originally posted by TheBlueMagician:

I don't think there's such a thing as the Transistor being bound to a certain person - rather, I think it just makes whoever is in possession of it a User. Thus, when someone is not possessing it, and a new person comes into possession, it has a new user "logged in."

That's specifically not the case. The in-game bios specifically talk about user status being transferred from Grant to Red, in a way that hadn't happened before. Red wasn't even holding the Transistor when it happened, it was stuck in Mr. Nobody. If letting go of the Transistor meant logging out, Grant would hardly have thrown it.

[Eibon]

Originally posted by Eiphel:

That's specifically not the case. The in-game bios specifically talk about user status being transferred from Grant to Red, in a way that hadn't happened before. Red wasn't even holding the Transistor when it happened, it was stuck in Mr. Nobody. If letting go of the Transistor meant logging out, Grant would hardly have thrown it.

"Although her trace data remains intact, partial transfer did occur, including transfer of ownership status of something the Camerata believed theirs."

I see what you mean. In that case, the event that triggered the Transfer was her entering that "in-between" area where (END SPOILERS) she and Royce duel for ownership of the Transistor. That's where I imagine Royce's function was obtained from (since you get it before meeting him), and also why you have Red's Crash() function (as it states a partial transfer occured).

[Turtle]

I posted this in the general spoiler discussion, but I want to back up TheBlueMagician's 'transfer of ownership' with this screenshot I took earlier:

http://i.imgur.com/aZcQA1A.jpg

There are fifteen of these Trace Banks in the boss fight, each one belonging to someone, including Royce, with the exception of Red and Mr. Nobody, who, presumably, Red is the "Current_User".