So just recursed through the first major boss [SPOILERS]

[Eibon]

And I hadn't realized how tragic it is the first time I went through it. Especially knowing the file on Sybil, and actually taking a bit more time to watch her before the fight, and understanding the relationship between the Process and the Camerata, and the song that plays.

Jaysus.

EDIT: ALSO I never got to interact with the Processed Crime scene. Indicating either the Camerata killed her for her lie about Red being alone, or the Process immediately got to her before the others.

Double Jaysus

[Steven Universe]

Exactly the same feeling here... Just got to my second recursion and it actually pained me to fight Sybil, especially hearing her mimic Red. She's officially my favourite character, no matter what she did. No one deserves to be processed like that... The others in the Camerata got off easy in my opinion.

[Eibon]

Yeah, Sybil is perhaps the most tragic character in my opinion because of the circumstances surrounding her death.

She is the only character in the narrative (besides Red's partner) that did not choose her death: Asher and Grant both commited suicide after watching their plan crumble, Royce fought you in a duel knowing full well what both results did to him, and Red chose to end her life in Cloudbank to live a better one in the Transistor.

But not Sybil. She was infatuated with Red, and made a mistake by acting on her feelings. Once that happened, one of two things happened: either all hell broke loose (I find this more probable, based on the evactuation of the area and the Process' progress near the set) and the Process went berserk, which meant that Sybil, for whatever reason, fell victim to them almost immediately; or, the Camerata turned on her for her misleading them and losing the Transistor (I find this very unlikely).

Imagine being there as the Process ran out of control: I'm sure that Grant was somewhat composed, though entirely afraid because he knew what was about to happen; Asher probably had faith that Grant would carry them through things; but Sybil? Her world shattered when Red, her partner, and the Transistor warped out. As the Process descended on the audience and the Camerata, she was probably processed before Grant or Asher could do anything.

And then she winds up like how you find her: a shell of her former self, completely void of anything but her obsession and jealousy of Red. The lines she has while sitting behind Red, the music that plays during her fight (In Circles) - they kinda break my heart.

Sybil may have helped the Camerata do terrible things, but their goal was not to murder influential individuals, it was to have them become Cloudbank. So while the means were dirty, the end was theoretically pure (but not practically, due to the means employed to reach it). Her interest was in the city, and in Red.

Definitely my favorite character that isn't Red, as she has some of the coolest - but most tragic - lore stuff. Looking forward to meeting Asher and Grant again to see if I notice anything new.

[Eiphel]

I've seen a few people mentioning the lines she has before the fight, but when I fought her, she was brokenly singing We All Become, then went silent. Is that what people mean, or does she have other lines?

[Aeriqui]

She has some lines I think in Recursion, but I just got her singing We All Become which gave me chills

[Eibon]

Originally posted by Thunder Dolphin:

She has some lines I think in Recursion, but I just got her singing We All Become which gave me chills

That's mostly what it was for me, yeah.

[Terin]

Just hopping in, but do we know what the deal is with what she turns into? The Process just transforms people into white blocks, but Sybil becomes a flying monster with an attack umbrella.

Also, something of interest, there are subtitles for lines of Sybil in the game content. I don't know if this was what she was babbling in the fight and I didn't have subtitles on, but it's new to me.

Sybil_2,Red... Red... Red...
Sybil_3,You are here you are here you are here I knew you'd return I knew I knew...
Sybil_4,Help us help us help us won't you we only wanted your help...
Sybil_5,Alone alone alone I told them you'd be alone I told them...
Sybil_6,I saved you I saved you I saved you I always I always wanted to...
Sybil_7,"Get up, get up, get up..."
Sybil_8,"We're not finished, not finished, not finished..."
Sybil_9,"That voice, that voice that voice, we killed him, we killed him, we killed..."
Sybil_10,"Look at me, look at me, look at me Red can't you see..."
Sybil_11,When everything changes nothing changes nothing changes nothing!
Sybil_12,You're hiding you're hiding no cheating...
Sybil_13,Come back where are you come back...
Sybil_14,"Ah there, there, there..."
Sybil_15,"Why hello, hello, hello..."
Sybil_16,"The Process cannot be stopped, cannot be stopped, cannot be stopped..."
Sybil_17,"The Transistor, Transistor, Transistor..."
Sybil_18,"Transistor, Transistor, Transistor..."
Sybil_19,"Transistor, Transistor, Transistor!!"
Sybil_20,"Give it back, give it back, give it back!"
Sybil_21,"It's not yours, it's not yours, it's not..."
Sybil_22,"How dare you, how dare you, how dare..."
Sybil_23,"We had you, we had you, we had you!"
Sybil_24,Your voice it is gone it is gone it is gone...
Sybil_25,You knew I would wait I would wait I would wait for you.
Sybil_26,Welcome back welcome back welcome.
Sybil_27,Finally finally finally we can be...

[Aeriqui]

Yeah I played with subtitles on and she said these during the fight. She got processed and all of her anger and disappointment augmented the process and turned her into that, destroying what was left of Sybil.

[Eibon]

Originally posted by Terin:

Just hopping in, but do we know what the deal is with what she turns into? The Process just transforms people into white blocks, but Sybil becomes a flying monster with an attack umbrella.

Also, something of interest, there are subtitles for lines of Sybil in the game content. I don't know if this was what she was babbling in the fight and I didn't have subtitles on, but it's new to me.

Nice find there, I never knew what she was saying during the fight.

As for why she was turned into a Process, rather than "preserved," it could be due to her role in the events - she was part of the group issuing orders to the Process, so maybe it sought to work her into the structure. That's sort of a guess.

As for the other people, I think it was the Process' efforts to preserve them, like the Camerata were having them do to Cloudbank. We also don't know what stage of being Processed the white blocks are - it's possible that Sybil was much further along in being Processed because she was tended to more intensely by the Process (as opposed to the partner, who was white blocks by the end), and that everyone is meant to become a Process by the end of the transformation/preservation process.

[Eiphel]

Royce mentions in his comment file for Cluckers that the Process seemed to be borrowing elements of organic design (Cluckers have organic legs), and in the file for Youngladies, he muses on the implications of their appearance, and the ultimate appearance of Men as the final form of the Process is pretty suggestive. All of which gives a sense that as the Process processes people, it becomes more person-like. I think as the Process processed Sybil's obsession and desire to wait for Red, it got directly refactored back into making her a new prototype design to fulfil her obsession. (Hey, there's a thought - Maybe other people with a strong enough force of will could have become new Processeses, but everyone in Cloudbank was utterly indolent, directionless. So they just became scenery. From a sardonic, ironic point of view, nothing changed.)

[Eibon]

Originally posted by Eiphel:

Royce mentions in his comment file for Cluckers that the Process seemed to be borrowing elements of organic design (Cluckers have organic legs), and in the file for Youngladies, he muses on the implications of their appearance, and the ultimate appearance of Men as the final form of the Process is pretty suggestive. All of which gives a sense that as the Process processes people, it becomes more person-like. I think as the Process processed Sybil's obsession and desire to wait for Red, it got directly refactored back into making her a new prototype design to fulfil her obsession. (Hey, there's a thought - Maybe other people with a strong enough force of will could have become new Processeses, but everyone in Cloudbank was utterly indolent, directionless. So they just became scenery. From a sardonic, ironic point of view, nothing changed.)

So, on that last point about them becoming scenery:

Remember how Breach comments that there should be a bunch of people out and about, and it's weird to see everything so empty?

What if the blocks that pop up for cover are the random citizens that got processed, and wound up like that because they were directionless?

There ultimately isn't anything to prove that, not that I can think of off the top of my head. But it'd be neat.

[Kyonko802]

It's actually a good thing Red came along when she did. At least from what I observed. Sybil was 97 percent processed and was losing her ♥♥♥♥. Putting her down with the Transistor probably saved her "life". She helps you immediately, answering the boyfriend's question without hesitation.

From just a few lines and a character's actions you can tell she really regretted what she did.

Superb writing.

[Eibon]

Originally posted by Kyonko802:

It's actually a good thing Red came along when she did. At least from what I observed. Sybil was 97 percent processed and was losing her ♥♥♥♥. Putting her down with the Transistor probably saved her "life". She helps you immidiately, answering the boyfriend's question without hesitation.

From just a few lines and a character's actions you can tell she really regretted what she did.

Superb writing.

I hadn't thought of that. Nice catch!

[Decathect]

Originally posted by Kyonko802:

It's actually a good thing Red came along when she did. At least from what I observed. Sybil was 97 percent processed and was losing her ♥♥♥♥. Putting her down with the Transistor probably saved her "life". She helps you immediately, answering the boyfriend's question without hesitation.

From just a few lines and a character's actions you can tell she really regretted what she did.

Superb writing.

I always thought of it as Sybil was filled with such remourse for what she helped do to red (because in a way Sybil loved her). That she just gave up and stayed there hoping she would come back. Then the process showed up first and in her depressed state she refused to run and well.... we have what we have to see when Red finally shows up.

[lyricasty]

I'd say it's rather clear that Sybil loved Red. And that from the dialogue and her file it can be basically gathered that she ultimately wanted to use Camarata to integrate breach() so that Red would be hers and hers alone.

So she knew he'd jump in to save her, which was Sybil's intention. And likely when it pierced him she was probably along the lines of "GIRLFRIEND GET()" but then the transistor, breach() and red just up and warped out of existence and then the process just goes wild.

So likely she's like "Wait whaaaaaaaaaaat?!" which kinda likely breaks her mind cause from her point of view, the transistor ♥♥♥♥♥♥ off with Red right out of existence so essentially she lost the woman she was so desparately trying to obtain and on top of that the world she was looking to progress also went ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ at the exact same moment.

[Steven Universe]

Originally posted by lyricasty:

I'd say it's rather clear that Sybil loved Red. And that from the dialogue and her file it can be basically gathered that she ultimately wanted to use Camarata to integrate breach() so that Red would be hers and hers alone.

So she knew he'd jump in to save her, which was Sybil's intention. And likely when it pierced him she was probably along the lines of "GIRLFRIEND GET()" but then the transistor, breach() and red just up and warped out of existence and then the process just goes wild.

So likely she's like "Wait whaaaaaaaaaaat?!" which kinda likely breaks her mind cause from her point of view, the transistor ♥♥♥♥♥♥ off with Red right out of existence so essentially she lost the woman she was so desparately trying to obtain and on top of that the world she was looking to progress also went ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ at the exact same moment.

Exactly my theory... Word for word.