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As for the ending, I also didn't really like the abruptness, though I can understand why she would choose to enter the transistor and actually like that decission. Would you like to rebuild a city you didn't like? And not be able to have other people around as they are dead, and the transistor can't bring them back?
I guess maybe her thoughts weren't as clear to me. I mean, doesn't she like the city? (from the way she responded to the ovc terminals, I thought she did)
Is her "husband" and possibly new people from other cities not enough?
Perhaps you're right and the thought of a desolate city made her desperate, but the fact she doesn't say a thing and that the ending is so abrupt makes it really hard for to get her reasons...
what bugged me is after the transistor is placed in the cradle, things just kinda go black nothing is explained and now there are 2 transistors and your fighting that dude. would of like more story there.
I was thinking more along the lines of them being programs in a vr world. But yeah, also the fact that they still exist in the sword. The somewath lack of a more in-depth story explanation feels more like a mystery, rather than an undersight
This tells me that after placing the transistor into the cradle both Red and Royce entered the transistor and only one could be returned to cloudbank.
After that and being unable to revive her lover she chose to be united inside the transistor.
Why did I just immediately trust this guy who destroyed the city and has obvious ulterior motives as explained through the entire game?
Why did I fight to the death with Royce to be the person who leaves the Transistor just to immediately kill myself to be in the Transistor? If I had lost, why would it have mattered?
Why am I some sort of fugitive from the law in the beginning if only 4 people were behind everything and their plan is completely off the rails?
Why do I never meet another live person in the entire game except 2 enemies?
If "going to the country" was a metaphor for death, why was sword-guy wanting her to go to the country at the motorcycle ride in the beginning, but pleading with her "no no please don't!" when she kills herself?
Why did those two guys kill themselves to escape if they knew I had the soul-sucking sword they helped make? Why wouldn't the robot flying carpet thingie work for them, considering they made it?
If you could only call on people you knew for help from the Transistor then why was Royce, described as a misanthrope recluse, able to use most of my moves?
Why did "the process" make a bunch of monsters to attack me for being a threat if it's so lacking in direction and thought that it would just quit doing it's purpose because you stick a sword in this hole in the floor?
Didn't I watch the Transistor tear itself apart, so why is the city now made of Transistors? And why would Royce get a Transistor of his own to use against me? Seems like it should have devolved into a slap-fight between an art girl and a nerd guy. One that she'd have won since she spent the past few hours better learning to smash things with a big stick.
How did the Transistor take only Red's voice and not her soul like everyone else?
Why is Red so completely non-expressive when she has the ability to communicate non-verbally via gestures, dancing, and even humming?
If they were computer programs all along, why *couldn't* the Transistor bring them back to life or even make more of them? Just make a new instance of the boyfriend object. Heck, make 2 to spice things up in bed or whatever, because you're the god-king-architect of the Matrix.
Why did the dragon thingie make narrator guy sick at the beginning of the game, yet when a 2nd one shows up toward the end it doesn't have any effect beyond annoying me with off-screen attacks?
Why could the Transistor create living dogs, but not people?
Why did Sybil become a super-powered monster boss but no one else did?
Why can no one leave the Transistor, except for that one time when I did?
Why were Red and Royce sucked into the Transistor when she plugged it in? It must have been plugged in before that to control the process in the first place... wouldn't it suck in everyone around then too?
For the record, I hate hate HATE suicide as an ending. To anything. Ever. Which far more than unanswered questions or narrative inconsistencies was my biggest con against this otherwise stellar game.
So many good questions XD
Yeah, I totally agree with you. I think the story it's way to "thin" for it to make real sense. There are just too many questions without an answer
I presume you mean why Red trusts him?
Because Red doesn't want to remake the world, rather than to be hero, she wants to be with her lover.
Hwat?
Because they'r all hiding/being transformed.
He want's Red to run away.
They didn't want to be caught by the process. They didn't make it.
They both used qualities of the people comsumed by the Transistor, that's the point of it.
It attacks everything.
Hwat.
Who knows.
Hwat.
Who knows, also a copy is just copy. People in Cloudbank could be a lot of things.
Narrator is Red's lover.
It does have an effect, and they run away from it.
It changed people into monsters.
Because Process changes people into monsters, others become monsters too, although Cybil was somehow special.
Did you even enter it.
Hwat.
Not really a suicide.
If you want to know more: pay more attention in game, read some topics, watch some vids.
What, exactly, is the point of reconstructing the city, when there's no one left in it?
For everything else, there's this guide.
For the record, killing yourself IS suicide and suicide is horrible. Always has been, always will be, and that is far and away my biggest complaint for this game.
Like what.
Red doensn't die. So its hardly a suicide.
1 I presume you mean why Red trusts him?
2 Yeah, like... immediately. Even though the entire game plot rests on reasons not to trust him.
Why did I fight to the death with Royce to be the person who leaves the Transistor just to immediately kill myself to be in the Transistor? If I had lost, why would it have mattered?
1 Because Red doesn't want to remake the world, rather than to be hero, she wants to be with her lover.
2 She already was with her lover, so mission accomplished. She doesn't care about saving Cloudbank so why go back?
Why am I some sort of fugitive from the law in the beginning if only 4 people were behind everything and their plan is completely off the rails?
1 Hwat?
2 Illuminating, truly. How are 4 science geeks who clearly have their hands more than full with sinister plotting able to put out a police APB on Red at the beginning?
Why do I never meet another live person in the entire game except 2 enemies?
1 Because they'r all hiding/being transformed.
2 And in a city of millions being attacked and killed no one runs out of their building, ever?
If "going to the country" was a metaphor for death, why was sword-guy wanting her to go to the country at the motorcycle ride in the beginning, but pleading with her "no no please don't!" when she kills herself?
1 He want's Red to run away.
2 I may not be remembering perfectly, but I believed that was mentioned in the motorcycle ride at the beginning. Get out, take a right, go to the country to lay low for now.
Why did those two guys kill themselves to escape if they knew I had the soul-sucking sword they helped make? Why wouldn't the robot flying carpet thingie work for them, considering they made it?
1 They didn't want to be caught by the process. They didn't make it.
2 I don't get why they decided to kill themselves, it didn't do any good to escape the process or the Transistor. And all along they had the same "get out of process free" card Red used in the robot flying carpet, they just... didn't use it.
If you could only call on people you knew for help from the Transistor then why was Royce, described as a misanthrope recluse, able to use most of my moves?
1 They both used qualities of the people comsumed by the Transistor, that's the point of it.
2 I thought there was some bit about having to know the people in the Transistor to be able to use their moves.
Why did "the process" make a bunch of monsters to attack me for being a threat if it's so lacking in direction and thought that it would just quit doing it's purpose because you stick a sword in this hole in the floor?
1 It attacks everything.
2 Except it didn't and kept pictures of Red around because... reasons? Does that mean it *did* start to value human life because one stood up to it and it had to try and understand where this is coming from?
Didn't I watch the Transistor tear itself apart, so why is the city now made of Transistors? And why would Royce get a Transistor of his own to use against me? Seems like it should have devolved into a slap-fight between an art girl and a nerd guy. One that she'd have won since she spent the past few hours better learning to smash things with a big stick.
1 Hwat.
2 Why are Transistors inside the Transistor? Why is his Transistor the exact same as mine, down to similar moves and everything?
How did the Transistor take only Red's voice and not her soul like everyone else?
1 Who knows.
2 Not us, but it seems weird that all the other people disappeared entirely and Red just can't speak. Except for the humming... so she has vocal chords still but like she doesn't have a tounge or what?
Why is Red so completely non-expressive when she has the ability to communicate non-verbally via gestures, dancing, and even humming?
1 Hwat.
2 I can hum my way through a whole range of responses. Mmm hmm - yes, hu um - no, umm umm - I don't know, mmmmm - thinking... 90% of communication is non-verbal. And Red is this super-artist person, all about creativity and expression. It's just weird to me that she doesn't even try communicating other than typing passive-aggressive notes on computer terminals and quickly erasing them to type something more assertive.
If they were computer programs all along, why *couldn't* the Transistor bring them back to life or even make more of them? Just make a new instance of the boyfriend object. Heck, make 2 to spice things up in bed or whatever, because you're the god-king-architect of the Matrix.
1 Who knows, also a copy is just copy. People in Cloudbank could be a lot of things.
2 Literal worlds of possibility squandered with a senseless suicide.
To be honest I thought Royce was the narrator guy from inside the sword when I beat him up until I started googling "WTF was that ending about?". But here's a few more questions I have:
1 Narrator is Red's lover.
2 Yes, that I get. But I'm terrible at remembering names and so when I'm inside the Transistor fighting some... I guess the personification of the Transistor which was the boyfriend. Which would be nonsense and is what ****ed me off enough to look into "What the heck was that about?" online in the first place.
Why did the dragon thingie make narrator guy sick at the beginning of the game, yet when a 2nd one shows up toward the end it doesn't have any effect beyond annoying me with off-screen attacks?
1 It does have an effect, and they run away from it.
2 Did it? I just remember running because it was increasingly pointless of a fight.
Why could the Transistor create living dogs, but not people?
1 It changed people into monsters.
2 The process might have changed people, the Transistor made loyal dogs to fight for you from nothing. It was a whole move set and was brought up again by the presence of a dog in the backdoor.
Why did Sybil become a super-powered monster boss but no one else did?
1 Because Process changes people into monsters, others become monsters too, although Cybil was somehow special.
2 I guess? But doing it one time only at the beginning just made it a weird exception.
Why can no one leave the Transistor, except for that one time when I did?
1 Did you even enter it.
2 Pretty sure, yeah.
Why were Red and Royce sucked into the Transistor when she plugged it in? It must have been plugged in before that to control the process in the first place... wouldn't it suck in everyone around then too?
1 Hwat.
2 If the Transistor was in charge of the process before, wouldn't that have also happened before? That whole following section seemed really arbitrary and non-sensical to me. I was figuring since the other human enemies just killed themselves instead of this last chump being a fight there'd be some final process boss guarding the door to turn it off or whatever, but nope, some nerd guy is fighting me with a copy of my Transistor, using moves I learned and earned from deceased people he's never met because he's been here all along. Which might have been better explained that I'm solo fighting one guy so I didn't have a move set for charming enemies when there's only the one enemy left in the game but whatever he went down easily enough anyway.
For the record, I hate hate HATE suicide as an ending. To anything. Ever. Which far more than unanswered questions or narrative inconsistencies was my biggest con against this otherwise stellar game.
1 Not really a suicide.
2 She stabbed herself deliberately to death, even over loved ones pleading her not to. That is the act of suicide.
1 If you want to know more: pay more attention in game, read some topics, watch some vids.
2 I did pay attention, I did read topics, I hate watching videos of other people playing games. I put far more effort into understanding the game than most players would, and still have several questions that defy answers.
Already told you, when Red realized that she will be alone, she decided to reunite with her lover instead of being alone.
I have no idea what you'r talking about. And yeah, they were basically a something like ulluminati.
You do see people dying on the ground.
Yes.
Because Grant was swallowed by regret. Asher decided to go out with him, since they were lovers. No, they couldnt get out.
Don't remember.
Don't remember them intentionaly leaving anything untouched.
Think about it.
One might think that she lost her voice along with her lover.
She's talking to her lover inside the Transistor. Also there is pretty much no one to communicate with.
No. You'r just not getting it.
Narrator was her lover, who protected Red with his own body from the Transistor and got absorbed by it. You really are not following story of this game.
Transistor made dogs that fought for you, as one of the functions inherited from one of the people absorbed by it.
It really doesn't seem like it.