Your opinion about no upcoming NSFW sex scenes ?

[de4dly_s0uls]

Personnally, I think it is better this way.
Most people refer to this game as the "incest game", however there is much more to TCOAAL than just incest, if Nemlei happened to make actual NSFW scenes, then she'd somehow give them reason.
Also, for people complaining that "yes but I bought it for the incest part" first of all, question your own sanity 'cause bro wtf, and secondly, Nemlei never mentionned that she'd make such uncensored scenes.

[Sabaithal]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Rama:

It's disappointing how depicting actual sex scenes continues to be the ultimate taboo in media, specially considering this game features satanism, cannibalism, murder, childhood trauma, parricide and active flirting with heavy sexual tension between the main characters (which are siblings). But oh, no! God forbid we see a nipple!

Well to be fair we didn't see anyone cutting up and eating a body... even though there are films like that existing that are NOT classified as 18+...

You know what nevermind.

[Rama]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Sabaithal:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Rama:

It's disappointing how depicting actual sex scenes continues to be the ultimate taboo in media, specially considering this game features satanism, cannibalism, murder, childhood trauma, parricide and active flirting with heavy sexual tension between the main characters (which are siblings). But oh, no! God forbid we see a nipple!

Well to be fair we didn't see anyone cutting up and eating a body... even though there are films like that existing that are NOT classified as 18+...

You know what nevermind.

What are you even talking about? One of the first things we get to do in the game is chopping the cultist's limbs and then Ashley cooks the dude. We actually get to choose which limb to cut first if I recall correctly.

[Sabaithal]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Rama:

What are you even talking about? One of the first things we get to do in the game is chopping the cultist's limbs and then Ashley cooks the dude. We actually get to choose which limb to cut first if I recall correctly.

But it doesn't show her actually cutting off the limb, cooking it, or eating it. The scene either blacks out briefly or skips it.

[Rama]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Sabaithal:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Rama:

What are you even talking about? One of the first things we get to do in the game is chopping the cultist's limbs and then Ashley cooks the dude. We actually get to choose which limb to cut first if I recall correctly.

But it doesn't show her actually cutting off the limb, cooking it, or eating it. The scene either blacks out briefly or skips it.

You literally have to press a button to select which limb to cut off and it detachs from the body. Did you even play the game?

[Sabaithal]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Rama:

You literally have to press a button to select which limb to cut off and it detachs from the body. Did you even play the game?

You see a cardboard cutout of what is supposed to be an arm connected to a body in one frame, and then not connected in the next frame.

Are you seriously trying to compare this to actual dismemberment depictions?

[Rama]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Sabaithal:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Rama:

You literally have to press a button to select which limb to cut off and it detachs from the body. Did you even play the game?

You see a cardboard cutout of what is supposed to be an arm connected to a body in one frame, and then not connected in the next frame.

Are you seriously trying to compare this to actual dismemberment depictions?

Sorry but I don't get what you're actually arguing for here. Are yoy saying I can show whatever tf I want aslong as it's poorly animated or according to the style of the game?

Regarding the sex scenes, would it be fine if the game just showed two "cardboard cutouts" twitching at a low framerate? Would that be less telling of what's going on?

Like... How dense can you be my dude?

[de4dly_s0uls]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Rama:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Sabaithal:

But it doesn't show her actually cutting off the limb, cooking it, or eating it. The scene either blacks out briefly or skips it.

You literally have to press a button to select which limb to cut off and it detachs from the body. Did you even play the game?

I think you don't get what they mean, the whole dismembering part isn't depicted in a fully drawn image, we know she's cutting his limbs, we choose which one yes, but we don't see the act of her cutting it, see what I mean ?
Then I think it should be the same with Sex, we never said we don't want sex in the story, we said that the whole nsfw uncensored drawn images of sex scenes isn't relevant to the story.
We could get something like what was shown in the vision, letting us know they had a sexual interaction but not necessarily showing us.

[Raven]

My opinion I guess is I'm meh. I think a lot of people are prudes lately and I *personally* don't have a problem with NSFW content. That said. I feel like these sorts of things should be options.

I won't get upset or complain about whatever things people like or how they choose to enjoy a game, but I do get mad at people who complain that something exists. Not your cup of tea? Don't make that choice. I'd understand and be sympathetic if you had no choice, but when there is one I rather you keep your opinion to yourself.

I can like the NSFW scenes and look forward to them, so why do I have to deal with this pseudo-shaming? This is one of those things where people are being shamed and called out and can't speak out because its "not proper" or they'll be "judged". There is SEVERAL posts doing exactly that.

I don't buy it. Not interested in sex? Cool, don't do it, but stop trying to regulate everyone else.

[de4dly_s0uls]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Raven:

My opinion I guess is I'm meh. I think a lot of people are prudes lately and I *personally* don't have a problem with NSFW content. That said. I feel like these sorts of things should be options.

I won't get upset or complain about whatever things people like or how they choose to enjoy a game, but I do get mad at people who complain that something exists. Not your cup of tea? Don't make that choice. I'd understand and be sympathetic if you had no choice, but when there is one I rather you keep your opinion to yourself.

I can like the NSFW scenes and look forward to them, so why do I have to deal with this pseudo-shaming? This is one of those things where people are being shamed and called out and can't speak out because its "not proper" or they'll be "judged". There is SEVERAL posts doing exactly that.

I don't buy it. Not interested in sex? Cool, don't do it, but stop trying to regulate everyone else.

Oo yeah that's a great point, but we're not shaming, or at least I am not and it's not the point of that thread, we're just giving our opinion and debating !
And personally don't have a problem with NSFW games aswell I just think that TCOAAL doesn't need it for the story and that it would give reasons to the people calling it "The incest game"

[Sukaiba]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από de4dly_s0uls:

I just think that TCOAAL doesn't need it for the story and that it would give reasons to the people calling it "The incest game"

The thing is, the story also doesn't ''NEED'' cannibalism, murder, demonic rituals, etc
All of them are simply narrative tools to facilitate goals; be it character development, audience's reaction or worldbuilding
Same goes for sex, like it or not, Burial routes is, on a meta level, a partial pay-off to tension that has always been there, and narratively, a t(h)reat of what could lay forward for the Graves
Even then chat they have afterwards helps to characterize and contrast them
If a person is unable to see how sex could be used to forward themes or characterization, that's more of a showcase of how monke brained that person is; just seeing the deed, ignoring the what led there

And the "incest game" is also the sort of thing Raven was talking about, it does carries a stigma of gratification without narrative purpose or unjustifiability(???), and a shortcut to imply its shameful and has no substance all the while
Be honest, does it sound more reasonable to call it the Cannibalism/the Demonic Ritual/the Patricide game?

[水面]

I feel like there may be a disconnect between the pro- and anti-NSFW side here, so I'd like to make my stance perfectly clear: I do not personally want any pornographic scenes in this game. I do not have anything against porn or anyone that enjoys it, but I feel like it would detract from the story overall. I never intended to shame anyone (even that one guy saying that the writing sucked and not having it felt like false advertising, I was just poking fun), although I still feel like anyone that was expecting pornographic content in this game was hoping for too much.

I've used the word "pornographic" up to this point because I feel like "NSFW" isn't well defined enough to illustrate what I mean. If you're using the literal definition, the vast majority of content that's already in this game is "not safe for work." To use the more general definition, the vision from the Lovers route could also be considered NSFW, since the dialogue between the two leaves little to the imagination, and the CG shows Ashley's side-boob.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Author, Questions and Answers Devlog:

Q: Explicit sex hentai porn NSFW scene when???????
A: Never.

To me this doesn't say anything about the two not having sex in the story at all, just that if it happens it won't be pornographic. Quotes from previous devlogs indicate that Decay does feature an optional sex scene. But it won't be explicit. I, personally, do not want to see explicit sex, and that's all that this is saying there won't be, so I'm not upset about that.

To give some other examples, every main series Fallout game has at least one optional sexual encounter, and in every case it's a fade to black. Mass Effect and Dragon Age have sex scenes, but they're fully clothed, and what you're meant to understand as being the deed happens during a fade to black. The Witcher was controversial when it first came out due to the amount of sex present, but again it's non-explicit, with even the infamous love cards at most showing a topless drawing in a suggestive pose. Even Huniepop, a game sold on its adult content and where there are sex minigames, doesn't feature explicit sex.

TL,DR: When the sexual content is implemented, it won't be explicit, but it will still be in the game, and I'm okay with that.

[Hauker~]

less is more

[Wurm65]

I personally don't need it, I have other games for that, this one is rocking me with its FUBAR story and thats more than enough. Can't wait till the next chapter releases.

[ryuseidancer]

Adding NSFW would detract so much from the story and further cement this as "the incest game" when there is so much more to be critical of. (The "incest" route is a conscious decision to make btw, that route is totally optional.) Anyone else have absolutely no idea where this story will go? Will we see more of Ashley's relatable mitskipilled femcel gooning? Can't wait.

[Sukaiba]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ryuseidancer:

Adding NSFW would detract so much from the story and further cement this as "the incest game" when there is so much more to be critical of.

But is that fault of the incest itself, or people who talk sんit while not knowing sんit?
Would this game being the "Murdering game", "Cannibalism game" sound any less shallow?

Also the Burial route CG is basically NSFW by itself, and I doubt anyone who has played the game and been interested in the Graves' relationship would say that it 'detracted'