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killock Mar 13, 2015 @ 10:56am
Nela's Choice (SPOILER)
I knew what was coming when I walked up to Nela... I actually ran away and made it quite a ways back down the street only to have the cut scene throw me right into the explosion. It completely destroyed the moment because I was busy going wtff? How did i get there? This is not a decision I would ever have made. Am I the only one who ran away from certain death!? Otherwise, this game is much more than I ever expected to get and you've done a fantastic job so far Red Thread Games. Thanks!!
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Durxa Mar 13, 2015 @ 11:28am 
I ran towards her but assumed it WAS a choice. If possible they should change that.
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8-bit_gaming Mar 13, 2015 @ 1:08pm 
Originally posted by Durxa:
I ran towards her but assumed it WAS a choice. If possible they should change that.
the only issue is that would change to much going forword.

heres an over simplifed example to give you an idea why making to many choises matter to much is impossible.

imagine if every book had 2 choices in it(a very small number) and for every choice you had 3 options(a medium number)
by the end of book 5 you would have 60,000 endings
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Bloodborne Enjoyer Mar 13, 2015 @ 1:12pm 
I also ran away from her, and suddenly I'm right behind her in the cut scene. Who in their right mind would run after a bomb carrying crazy woman? I don't like that it gave you a 'option' and then decided to make it a set way.
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8-bit_gaming Mar 13, 2015 @ 1:16pm 
Originally posted by Scurrilous Straggler:
I also ran away from her, and suddenly I'm right behind her in the cut scene. Who in their right mind would run after a bomb carrying crazy woman? I don't like that it gave you a 'option' and then decided to make it a set way.
do you know what else gave you an 'option' like that heavy ran and finding your son when hes lost in the mall. not every choice has to be a real one
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O))) Mar 13, 2015 @ 1:20pm 
Originally posted by 8-bit_gaming:
Originally posted by Scurrilous Straggler:
I also ran away from her, and suddenly I'm right behind her in the cut scene. Who in their right mind would run after a bomb carrying crazy woman? I don't like that it gave you a 'option' and then decided to make it a set way.
do you know what else gave you an 'option' like that heavy ran and finding your son when hes lost in the mall. not every choice has to be a real one
They should have just made it a cutscene then. I have no issue with not having a choice in the matter, but its poor design to imply there is some sense of variability when there isn't.
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8-bit_gaming Mar 13, 2015 @ 2:19pm 
Originally posted by crapmonster:
Originally posted by 8-bit_gaming:
do you know what else gave you an 'option' like that heavy ran and finding your son when hes lost in the mall. not every choice has to be a real one
They should have just made it a cutscene then. I have no issue with not having a choice in the matter, but its poor design to imply there is some sense of variability when there isn't.
they did not imply a choice they thoght you would have a heart and try to save your friend.
just like with heavy rain they assumed you would try to find your son and not run in the oposite direction.
you are just spoiled with game choices these day not every seen in every game needs to give you options
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Bloodborne Enjoyer Mar 13, 2015 @ 3:23pm 
Originally posted by 8-bit_gaming:
Originally posted by crapmonster:
They should have just made it a cutscene then. I have no issue with not having a choice in the matter, but its poor design to imply there is some sense of variability when there isn't.
they did not imply a choice they thoght you would have a heart and try to save your friend.
just like with heavy rain they assumed you would try to find your son and not run in the oposite direction.
you are just spoiled with game choices these day not every seen in every game needs to give you options

have a heart? are you kidding? There is no way I would run after anyone who had their hand on the trigger of a bomb. I don't care who it was. I would book it in the opposite direction, which is what I did here. There is no survivability in this situation. What a crazy, unstable thing to do.
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O))) Mar 13, 2015 @ 7:04pm 
Originally posted by 8-bit_gaming:
Originally posted by crapmonster:
They should have just made it a cutscene then. I have no issue with not having a choice in the matter, but its poor design to imply there is some sense of variability when there isn't.
they did not imply a choice they thoght you would have a heart and try to save your friend.
just like with heavy rain they assumed you would try to find your son and not run in the oposite direction.
you are just spoiled with game choices these day not every seen in every game needs to give you options
You are completely missing the point.
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Cloud Icarus Mar 13, 2015 @ 7:12pm 
I ran as well!! I was surprised when the cutscened assumed my 'choice'.
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Kemar Mar 13, 2015 @ 7:19pm 
Originally posted by crapmonster:
Originally posted by 8-bit_gaming:
they did not imply a choice they thoght you would have a heart and try to save your friend.
just like with heavy rain they assumed you would try to find your son and not run in the oposite direction.
you are just spoiled with game choices these day not every seen in every game needs to give you options
You are completely missing the point.

He is indeed.
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8-bit_gaming Mar 13, 2015 @ 9:19pm 
Originally posted by crapmonster:
Originally posted by 8-bit_gaming:
they did not imply a choice they thoght you would have a heart and try to save your friend.
just like with heavy rain they assumed you would try to find your son and not run in the oposite direction.
you are just spoiled with game choices these day not every seen in every game needs to give you options
You are completely missing the point.
did they give ytou a choice in heavy rain to continue browsing the store and ignore the fact your son was missing?
no should they have turned it into a cutsceen..no
90% of events in games theres no "choice" to that does not mean 90% of the game should be a cutsceen
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Hobbes Mar 13, 2015 @ 9:48pm 
But the problem is it *did* give you the option to run away...then it just teleported you back for the cutscene
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jamie.obier Mar 23, 2015 @ 11:55am 
I didn't run away. It's simple: I saw Nela in Slow Motion running forwards. Then there was a hint: press L Shift or something. In this moment I thought that the slowmo is the sign for me to stop Nela (my cursor was a point, maybe to interact?) But I was too far away from her. I don't know why I had have to press the keys. Maybe we could hold Nela back?
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shtomer Mar 23, 2015 @ 12:24pm 
Guysssss... the awesome team actually *did* do an extra cutscene + choice out of this! According to Ragnar, they didn't imagine anyone would run away, but then they saw the feeback. Check out the pages 5+6 here:
http://redthreadgames.com/forum/topic/1517-ilusion-of-choice-the-ending-of-book-two/

It should be available in the upcoming beta, or something... people who have played the beta now didn't confirm yet that there's a new cut scene, but Ragnar was very clear about it...
Last edited by shtomer; Mar 23, 2015 @ 12:25pm
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CrazyOdd Mar 23, 2015 @ 1:20pm 
Ragnar:
"If you play the new beta branch on Steam (2.0.1) there is now a SECOND cut-scene that happens if you turn around and run away.

Oh, and we record your choice.

It will have repercussions."

Must test right away :D
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