What's with all the people hating on this game?

[Gabelvampir]

Why do so man people (and reviewers) hate on this game? Sure it is not perfect, but then again so are most games. To me it is simply a fun game with nice colourful graphics (although some of the backgrounds could use a little bit more work, but that's only a minor fault to me). And the sprites are hand drawn. Yeah the gameplay is exactly the same as with the old games. So what? DuckTales 1+2 are among the best NES/GB games, so what's wrong with that? If it were a 60$ game with this length, I would understand. But it is cheaper. (Btw, I hope they make 1 DLC pack with levels inspired by DuckTales 2, or at least a level editor).
I am a bit disappointed in some people that normally praise retro games, but do write bad stuff about this game, as it feels to old to them and stuff like that.
Oh and before you think I only loving this game for pure nostalgia, that would probably it if there were German audio with the original dub actors. And yeah, I really love the old GB game, I always wanted a newer game with similar mechanics. And this games mechanics feel exactly right, as the standard Pogo setting works the same as in the GB version. And the other option should cover the NES controls.

[Jeffosoft]

Първоначално публикувано от Gabelvampir:

Първоначално публикувано от eviltwin61878:

I owned both games on the nes and i loved them, and I loved the show and the rush of nostalgia when i saw this sent shivers down my spine...but I always say I would rather wait a little longer for a quality game with no bugs and have a rushed buggy piece of junk.

not calling this game junk, i don't own it i have not played it but just looking at the situation here, makes me extremely hesitant to take that chance

Let me assure you, the game is finished. And I hope most bugs are ironed out by the 3 patches they did (patch 2 was primarily necessary because they borked the savegame loading with patch 1). But I can't tell, I've got to encounter a bug apart from a slight problem I've had with the Pogo stick that got pretty much resolved. Some people seem to have more problems with bugs, don't know why.

Oh and I primarily started the thread because many people here in the forum called this good game bad names and I wanted to hear the reasoning for that. Not for people flaming and discredit people by looking at their past purchases to ridicule them. We all purchased bas games in the past. I'm not quite sure how a movie would look like a good purchase, but I'm sure it looked like a good idea at a time to Jeffosoft. And maybe you can have fun with the Avatar game, I don't know.

Oh no trust me it was bad. It came with my Nvision 3D glasses a few years back. Im pretty sure it was only made to showcase 3D.

[Gabelvampir]

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Oh no trust me it was bad. It came with my Nvision 3D glasses a few years back. Im pretty sure it was only made to showcase 3D.

Ah ok, that would have been my second guess: came in a bundle or with some piece of hardware.
I totally forgot about it beeing bundle with that NVidia 3D glasses because it probably was the cheapest game supported at the time. Ans so far I thought people mostly bought it for the action figures. There was one in the Collector's Edition box, a different for each plattform. An even ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ deal then the postcards in my Twin Peaks Gold box.

[skyace65]

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Look, we can't all buy gems like James Cameron’s Avatar: The Game. I'm pretty sure people are perfectly capable of deciding what they want to spend their money on.

I really hope you are being sarcastic...."james camerons avatar the movie : the game"? are you serious?! i have never played a game based on a movie that was actually good. they just take a piece of crap that didn't pass muster, slap a movie license on it and rush it out the door and then sit back and laugh while people buy it. and then the companies that do that go bankrupt...like LJN and THQ...

actually the tron evolution videogame was really good. not a triple A game but it was pretty fun to play and did add something to the plot of Legacy. though I'm not sure it would count 100% as a good movie game since it was a prequel and you weren't playing out the movive

[Gabelvampir]

Yeah there are some movie games that are good, like the Riddick games and that one Pirates of the Caribean game (not Monkey Island :P) i.e.
But most of them are pretty rubbish and always were, as a bigger part of the budget goes into the license and the normaly have a relatively short dev cycle as they are supporsed to be released along with the movie.
Hmm, come to think of it, I think most movie games that are good do not follow the movie too closely, but are prequels or continuations. The only good movie game that (kinda) follows the plot of the movie that comes to mind right now is the Indiana Jones III adventure, and the developers said they tried to stray as far as they reasonably could from the movie so the game would still be interesting to people who saw the movie.

[Mauste]

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Would have been nice if they made a proper ducktales game instead of a remake, most people that care about the show played the NES version. Whats with all these fans all of a sudden? The game is over priced at $14.99 for what it is.

I liked ducktales as a kid but Im not buying into some remake and jumping on the bandwagon just because I like the show and back in 1990 I liked the game.

The original NES game considered to be a Classic and it is often included in "Best NES-games"-lists. For example in IGN's "Top 100 NES-games", Ducktales is 10th best. This means that there are lots of players who think that the original game is excellent. Not to mention there has been a lot of demand for a HD-remake of this NES-game.

DuckTales: Remastered gives the original game a proper modernization, while maintaining everything, including the simplicity, that made the original game special in the first place. This is how the best remakes are made. If the game hadn't included the level design, the soundtrack, the gameplay or the aesthetic of the original game, it wouldn't have been a remake.

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For $15.00 for such a short game that didnt have any real level design they could have came up with some new content. It will be pirated way more then it sells and honeslty as long as it gets out I doubt they care.

The fact that the game is so true to the original is not a bad thing, since this is exactly what most people wanted from a HD-remake. In fact, this is the game's major selling-point, since the game is obviously meant for the fans of the original game. Otherwise the game would have been completely different.

In my opinion the game is easily worth the 15€ I paid for it and so does a lot of others.
If you feel differently, it is not the game's fault, because the game does an outstanding job of being what it is meant to be.

I am sorry the game is not what you wanted it to be, but the game is everything I wanted it to be and more!

[grumpstar]

Disney has more talent in cryo (LITERALLY) than they know what to do with. I think we should be nice to this kids we see here in the production vids. They are wage slave to the great mouse ears. To me they seem a bit intimidated and scared while being interviewed or explaining thier tiny role in this project that they were let out of thier cages to attend to. Their careers and livlihood and personal advancements rely on this project having gone over well. They are under the scope. I really would wish, at least from my end down here on earth that the great ears will allow for them to make mistakes and adjust fire before casting a judgement on how it shall approach such projects in the future and vaporize the whole notion.

[grumpstar]

They...were nice kids. That dev team.

[Swankster]

People are hating? DUDE! Its bloody Ducktales!! They remastered it to fit Ducktales in the generation to their ability to...well, cartoonify, and added the story of what was supposed to be in the original game. The only people who would be hating on THAT would be those who dont know it ever existed, never played it, or just didnt take a good enough look at it.

[Gabelvampir]

I'm not really sure what video you are talking about, but the devs (WayForward) are no wage slaves to Disney. They make lot's of 2D stuff these days, mostly on consoles. Actually they seem to be the go-to-guys at the moment if you want to make a non-Indie 2D game with hand-drawn art.
If you want to play more of them, look for games like Shantar (Gameboy Colour/3DS Virtual Console), Contra 4 (DS), A Boy and his Blob (Wii), and both Mighty Switch Force! games (3DS eShop). And they have lot's of other great stuff, and many games coming out in the next months.
But I think this is the first game they did that was also released on PC. The second Shantae game is on Greenlight, but that's that for now.

[sere]

capcom took a 70 million dollar loss after several years of outsourcing their flagship titles, aggressively pushing nonsense sprite swap and "on disc" dlc, and allowing almost all of their top talent leave the company on less than amicable terms. with that in mind...

we have the idea that a masterpiece can be remastered. this is a perverted misuse of nostalgia, taking a classic piece of perfection from the NES and our childhood and making a mockery of it. duck tales was the crown jewels of NES games, we now dare to pass it from dirty hands to "wayforward", a developer which is simply "adequate", never "special" or "amazing", definitely not worthy of reforging the crown jewels.. but we let them anyway, spot welding away, making a mess. it has been so poorly reimagined into something barely qualifying as a generic drop in the bucket. pfffft, so much for crown jewels.

generic, 2.5d levels
generic animation
generic developer
generic everything

if this were to be released without any affiliation to the NES game, nobody would care because if it stood alone it would be just another generic looking par for the course platformer.

this is NOT how you remaster a masterpiece because a masterpiece does not need to be remastered.

this is nothing more than a step in capcom's current campaign of "recoup that 70 million we lost by any means".

i have played other wayforward titles. they sometimes have some contributed talent from artists and sprite animations, (even a teased konjak affiliation) but in no way would there ever be any gamer who would walk away from a wayforward game thinking how much sense it would make for them to remake (demake? ruin? destroy any and all fond memory?) a beloved classic.

Duck Tales from the NES to this day is not found wanting. If you buy this game be aware that you are buying a travesty, nothing more. You cannot remaster a masterpiece.

[Spacecataz]

Първоначално публикувано от sere:

capcom took a 70 million dollar loss after several years of outsourcing their flagship titles, aggressively pushing nonsense sprite swap and "on disc" dlc, and allowing almost all of their top talent leave the company on less than amicable terms. with that in mind...

we have the idea that a masterpiece can be remastered. this is a perverted misuse of nostalgia, taking a classic piece of perfection from the NES and our childhood and making a mockery of it. duck tales was the crown jewels of NES games, we now dare to pass it from dirty hands to "wayforward", a developer which is simply "adequate", never "special" or "amazing", definitely not worthy of reforging the crown jewels.. but we let them anyway, spot welding away, making a mess. it has been so poorly reimagined into something barely qualifying as a generic drop in the bucket. pfffft, so much for crown jewels.

generic, 2.5d levels
generic animation
generic developer
generic everything

if this were to be released without any affiliation to the NES game, nobody would care because if it stood alone it would be just another generic looking par for the course platformer.

this is NOT how you remaster a masterpiece because a masterpiece does not need to be remastered.

this is nothing more than a step in capcom's current campaign of "recoup that 70 million we lost by any means".

i have played other wayforward titles. they sometimes have some contributed talent from artists and sprite animations, (even a teased konjak affiliation) but in no way would there ever be any gamer who would walk away from a wayforward game thinking how much sense it would make for them to remake (demake? ruin? destroy any and all fond memory?) a beloved classic.

Duck Tales from the NES to this day is not found wanting. If you buy this game be aware that you are buying a travesty, nothing more. You cannot remaster a masterpiece.

I bought a damned good game, 20 years after I bought the original. That's, what I know. In addition to that, you don't own DTR, so your opinion is honestly inavlid. Now, go spread your vaudevillian garbage somewhere else. This game was made to *gasp* make money. Now, I know in your odd little utopian dreams developers/game companies only churn out fresh new games just bustling with fresh ideas, only charge 30 bucks total, never package removed content as DLCs, always charge properly for those DLCs, and never try to bring back/mine a franchise. This is never going to happen, so wake up. Wayforward is not like that though, and they certaintly aren't "generic". If this was going to be relaunched, I'm glad they are in the engine room. How is the game generic? This is only one of a few remastered titles. The art work is gorgous, the controls crisp, and the hit detection slightly frustrating like in the original. Generic is an overused term these days, and a term that in no way applies to the game or the developers that created it.

Many of us are fully aware this is a mouse trap to reopen the franchise, to suckle at the proverbial teet that is Duck Tales by involving the [albeit horrible] new generations of gamers. But, we also dont mind. If you truly love the DT franchise en masse, you should be happy its off to such a good start. Which, you would know if you had played the game. I loved the original as well, but I'm glad it's been updated, and that I'm able to play it. If this was never made, the franchise would have stayed in the dank hole its been in. It would have continued to die a slow death. Even if I despised the game, i'd still be happy it and the franchise may be getting a new lease on life.

Now when you respond to this thread, seeing that you seem well spoken, [well, well written in this case I suppose] I would imagine you might start out by insulting my taste in games, before spewing a diatribe about how I'm supporting "disgusting practices" by developers and game companies in general. However this is an assumption, so I'm going to cover my bases and offer the following, as I feel the tactic of catch phrases will work pretty good to annoy you.

Ready, here I go!

*AHEM*

You mad bro?
Cool story Bro
2 long didnt read
go back to /v

There, I hope you enjoyed that. I also hope your essay on how the original sits atop its golden pedestal and can never be unseated, is seen by most for what it is, hot air.

[Phil'd With Malice]

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Psuedo intellectual garbage to make me look like I'm an intelligent contrarion

Seriously dude, your arguments are weak. Have you even played Contra 4 on the DS? To claim that game is generic is clearly from someone lacking knowledge on the game. That game is so old school it makes me shudder. This is coming form someone that has beaten every Contra title except Hard Corps for the Sega Genesis and has been playing Contra since 1987 in the arcades. That game is ridiculous on hard mode. Not Hard Corps level, but close.

A Boy and His Blob for the Wii was a monumental achievement over the original due to the fact it wasn't impossibly cryptic like the original was. It performed the task of the original without being condescending while avoiding the mistakes of the original. Play the original without a guide and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.

Claiming that all Wayforward titles are boring pieces of mediocrity is patently false.

Saying that Duck Tales on the NES is a masterpiece or perfection is overstating it substantially. The title was a generic platformer with a pogo stick and a Disney license as it's gimmicks in the 80's. Nothing more, nothing less. It wasn't a masterpiece, but it had a strong following simply due to the fact of its license. I fell for it like most of us here and it cemented itself into our life simply due the number of hours we spent playing it.

Stop pretending your contrarian concepts are intelligent. They aren't. Your claims are Anita Sarkeesian levels of stupid. They come from someone that didn't play the originals when they were new or the remaster for that matter while looking upon them intelligently. Duck Tales for the NES was a generic platform title like the hundreds prior and post its release. What separated it from the pack was exactly why you deride and claim this game sucks, its license.

[Spacecataz]

Първоначално публикувано от Phil'd With Malice:

Първоначално публикувано от sere:

Psuedo intellectual garbage to make me look like I'm an intelligent contrarion

Seriously dude, your arguments are weak. Have you even played Contra 4 on the DS? To claim that game is generic is clearly from someone lacking knowledge on the game. That game is so old school it makes me shudder. This is coming form someone that has beaten every Contra title except Hard Corps for the Sega Genesis and has been playing Contra since 1987 in the arcades. That game is ridiculous on hard mode. Not Hard Corps level, but close.

A Boy and His Blob for the Wii was a monumental achievement over the original due to the fact it wasn't impossibly cryptic like the original was. It performed the task of the original without being condescending while avoiding the mistakes of the original. Play the original without a guide and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.

Claiming that all Wayforward titles are boring pieces of mediocrity is patently false.

Saying that Duck Tales on the NES is a masterpiece or perfection is overstating it substantially. The title was a generic platformer with a pogo stick and a Disney license as it's gimmicks in the 80's. Nothing more, nothing less. It wasn't a masterpiece, but it had a strong following simply due to the fact of its license. I fell for it like most of us here and it cemented itself into our life simply due the number of hours we spent playing it.

Stop pretending your contrarian concepts are intelligent. They aren't. Your claims are Anita Sarkeesian levels of stupid. They come from someone that didn't play the originals when they were new or the remaster for that matter while looking upon them intelligently. Duck Tales for the NES was a generic platform title like the hundreds prior and post its release. What separated it from the pack was exactly why you deride and claim this game sucks, its license.

I like the cut of your jib sir, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Now i you will excuse me, I'm going to be a huge nerd and google duck tales figurines.

[Trikky]

Първоначално публикувано от .:: Tempest ::.:

It's simple. These people didn't grew up knowing what the difficulty curve was back then. People want to be spoon fed everything without dealing with dying a few times to make progresss. It's a remake of a NES game, not a re-imagening which people seem to think it is.

Exactly!! +1

[Gabelvampir]

Първоначално публикувано от Phil'd With Malice:

Duck Tales for the NES was a generic platform title like the hundreds prior and post its release. What separated it from the pack was exactly why you deride and claim this game sucks, its license.

I don't think DuckTales (Remastered) was/is a generic plattformer. Sure, back in the day I came for the cartoon license like most other people, but I stayed for the Pogo mechanic. Not many games have that.