"Spammers"

[Wander]

What makes a person a spammer? I want see everyones opinion on them?

[76561198102799856]

A person who repeatedly uses the same item or action.
This can be confused with a loop which isn't the same.

[Lightstorm95]

Originally posted by Aliriorge:

I've mostly seen it used for defining players that play the game cause theres only 2 attack keys

fixed

[Lightstorm95]

Originally posted by *~Elite-Status~*:

A person who repeatedly uses the same item or action.
This can be confused with a loop which isn't the same.

hmm? elaborate i'm generally intrigued.

[76561198102799856]

Originally posted by lightstorm05:

Originally posted by *~Elite-Status~*:

A person who repeatedly uses the same item or action.
This can be confused with a loop which isn't the same.

hmm? elaborate i'm generally intrigued.

Well, while spamming is basically a repeated process it can have its limits.
Although, a loop is INFINITE you can go on forever with a loop ZZ let's so to say.
Now you may be thinking, "Well, in a way that can be spamming also right?" since it's basically being repeated, but it's not being repeated it's going on forever in endless loop, loops have no limits, this can be said for a lot of games like Marvel vs Capcom or Superstreet fighter 4< "I think" (look up loops for games on youtube you'll see what i'm saying.)

So, let's put this into perspective...
Let's say i'm an Add and I decided to spam Maximum strike, (it's possible to spam this due to to reasons 1) Having 300 MP 2) Having your DP gauge at around maybe 350+ also when Add gets attacked they seem to gain massive amounts of DP in no time.)
So, I get the the amount of mana I need and use it, but what happens? I have to wait for cooldown before I can use it again, but it's technically spam because it's the main move i'm gonna use throughout the entire game, but again it has limits.
Now compare that to ZZ Loop, now I decide to use it, now what exactly happens? If you notice when you ZZ loop it just the same repetitive ZZ~ZZ seems like spam right? Except for the fact that one compared to using actions like skills ZZ loop has no limits and can go on forever without ANY delay, thus doesn't really count as spam due to infinity properties.

[Mugen]

Originally posted by Wander:

What makes a person a spammer? I want see everyones opinion on them?

Here let me break it down for you:

People SPAM the use of:

• Skills
  
• Items
  
• Lol, and words (Which activates the Anti-Spam System)

Some people LOOP, which is repeating a certain melees in a row

- I still considerate it as spamming, because you can't really lie to me and say it's fair for someone to use the same annoying tactics EACH AND EVERYTIME without changing it up.

For instance:

1. Say a BM was spamming the ZZ loop FOR THE ENTIRE MATCH. I consider that spamming, because it's coninuosly using the same moves over and over again. Same with an EM using her same Lightning Shower or a Rena spamming arrows and not using different melee tactics or skills.
   
   BUT:
   
   
2. Loop, isn't that much of a spamming, because some peope truly use it to keep their combos going. That's fine as well, but unless they change it up with skills in between or another move, then it's considered as spamming.

[76561198102799856]

Originally posted by Bugendai Ken (Mugen):

Originally posted by Wander:

What makes a person a spammer? I want see everyones opinion on them?

Here let me break it down for you:

People SPAM the use of:
- Skills
- Items
- Lol, and words (Which activates the Anti-Spam System)

Some people LOOP, which is repeating a certain melees in a row

- I still considerate it as spamming, because you can't really lie to me and say it's fair for someone to use the same annoying tactics EACH AND EVERYTIME without changing it up.

For instance:

Say a BM was spamming the ZZ loop FOR THE ENTIRE MATCH. I consider that spamming, because it's coninuosly using the same moves over and over again. Same with an EM using her same Lightning Shower or a Rena spamming arrows and not using different melee tactics or skills.

BUT:

Loop, isn't that much of a spamming, because some peope truly use it to keep their combos going. That's fine as well, but unless they change it up with skills in between or another move, then it's considered as spamming.

Actually, if you think about it you can't call ZZ usage a loop to begin with due to the fact that the knockdown system takes place, and a loop goes on forever, again compare almost any fighting game to this and i'm pretty sure you can loop for days and not give your opponent any room to attack while opposed to here, true with this you can do a good amount of damage, but you have limits (not to mention you even have the mana break system also). Although, it can't be called spam due to the fact that:

1) You have to MAKE UP loops which some people have done and provided.
Again, a good example is Add: XX~XX, -->-->Z--->-->Z. ZZ~ZZ, and even if you wanted to call them a spammer=loop (which is what your talking about) can you really say that due to the fact that not only do we have multiple number of these "loops" but we can make more of our own?

True, it may seem like spamming and looping are the same, but they aren't.

Definition of Spam- A person who repeatedly uses an item or skill
Definition of Loop- To form or cause (something) to form a loop

So, from these definitions last time I checked a loop isn't a skill or item, it's something YOU the person has to form or to cause it to happen.

You can't cause a "skill" to loop in Elsword(unless you hack, but we're talking on a technical legit level), but it can be spammed due to it being mainly used throughout the entire game.

[Hawkstein]

Ara.

[Mugen]

Originally posted by *~Elite-Status~*:

Originally posted by Bugendai Ken (Mugen):

Here let me break it down for you:

People SPAM the use of:
- Skills
- Items
- Lol, and words (Which activates the Anti-Spam System)

Some people LOOP, which is repeating a certain melees in a row

- I still considerate it as spamming, because you can't really lie to me and say it's fair for someone to use the same annoying tactics EACH AND EVERYTIME without changing it up.

For instance:

Say a BM was spamming the ZZ loop FOR THE ENTIRE MATCH. I consider that spamming, because it's coninuosly using the same moves over and over again. Same with an EM using her same Lightning Shower or a Rena spamming arrows and not using different melee tactics or skills.

BUT:

Loop, isn't that much of a spamming, because some peope truly use it to keep their combos going. That's fine as well, but unless they change it up with skills in between or another move, then it's considered as spamming.

Actually, if you think about it you can't call ZZ usage a loop to begin with due to the fact that the knockdown system takes place, and a loop goes on forever, again compare almost any fighting game to this and i'm pretty sure you can loop for days and not give your opponent any room to attack while opposed to here, true with this you can do a good amount of damage, but you have limits (not to mention you even have the mana break system also). Although, it can't be called spam due to the fact that:

1) You have to MAKE UP loops which some people have done and provided.
Again, a good example is Add: XX~XX, -->-->Z--->-->Z. ZZ~ZZ, and even if you wanted to call them a spammer=loop (which is what your talking about) can you really say that due to the fact that not only do we have multiple number of these "loops" but we can make more of our own?

True, it may seem like spamming and looping are the same, but they aren't.

Definition of Spam- A person who repeatedly uses an item or skill
Definition of Loop- To form or cause (something) to form a loop

So, from these definitions last time I checked a loop isn't a skill or item, it's something YOU the person has to form or to cause it to happen.

You can't cause a "skill" to loop in Elsword(unless you hack, but we're talking on a technical legit level), but it can be spammed due to it being mainly used throughout the entire game.

UH, but you mean to tell me that ZZ isn't a loop? Then would it be spamming? That makes no sense, because then most loops all have knockdown systems! Even X drop! You shouldn't put the knockdown system as a factor in looping! Looping is looping! And it's using the same melee attack over and over again. Saying it's just spamming unless it doesn't have any knockdown rates only makes most loops that we use into spamming.

Spamming and looping are and never will be the same:

SPAM: Someone deliberatly using the same skills or items, NOT for the intension of a long combo, but as an advtange.

LOOP: Someone who uses the same melee moves for a longer combo chain.

So, from these definitions last time I checked a loop isn't a skill or item, it's something YOU the person has to form or to cause it to happen.

- YES. That, I do agree, and it's made to only make the combo's longer, and you could follow loops up, with SKILLS. Using skills ALONE without the looping, is spamming. And you obviously can't loop a skill, but if you keep on using the same and only skill, AFTER the cooldown is gone, then that's spamming.

If this makes sense:

Using skills repeated and only skills, is spamming.

Repeatingly using melee type attacks, wheter it activates knockdown or not is looping.

And COMBOS are chains of attacks, that are created from looping and can even be a combination of both.

(._.) So, uhhh....Spamming, Looping, and Comboing are all different things.

[76561198102799856]

Originally posted by Bugendai Ken (Mugen):

Originally posted by *~Elite-Status~*:

Actually, if you think about it you can't call ZZ usage a loop to begin with due to the fact that the knockdown system takes place, and a loop goes on forever, again compare almost any fighting game to this and i'm pretty sure you can loop for days and not give your opponent any room to attack while opposed to here, true with this you can do a good amount of damage, but you have limits (not to mention you even have the mana break system also). Although, it can't be called spam due to the fact that:

1) You have to MAKE UP loops which some people have done and provided.
Again, a good example is Add: XX~XX, -->-->Z--->-->Z. ZZ~ZZ, and even if you wanted to call them a spammer=loop (which is what your talking about) can you really say that due to the fact that not only do we have multiple number of these "loops" but we can make more of our own?

True, it may seem like spamming and looping are the same, but they aren't.

Definition of Spam- A person who repeatedly uses an item or skill
Definition of Loop- To form or cause (something) to form a loop

So, from these definitions last time I checked a loop isn't a skill or item, it's something YOU the person has to form or to cause it to happen.

You can't cause a "skill" to loop in Elsword(unless you hack, but we're talking on a technical legit level), but it can be spammed due to it being mainly used throughout the entire game.

UH, but you mean to tell me that ZZ isn't a loop? Then would it be spamming? That makes no sense, because then most loops all have knockdown systems! Even X drop! You shouldn't put the knockdown system as a factor in looping! Looping is looping! And it's using the same melee attack over and over again. Saying it's just spamming unless it doesn't have any knockdown rates only makes most loops that we use into spamming.

Spamming and looping are and never will be the same:

SPAM: Someone deliberatly using the same skills or items, NOT for the intension of a long combo, but as an advtange.

LOOP: Someone who uses the same melee moves for a longer combo chain.

So, from these definitions last time I checked a loop isn't a skill or item, it's something YOU the person has to form or to cause it to happen.

- YES. That, I do agree, and it's made to only make the combo's longer, and you could follow loops up, with SKILLS. Using skills ALONE without the looping, is spamming. And you obviously can't loop a skill, but if you keep on using the same and only skill, AFTER the cooldown is gone, then that's spamming.

If this makes sense:

Using skills repeated and only skills, is spamming.

Repeatingly using melee type attacks, wheter it activates knockdown or not is looping.

And COMBOS are chains of attacks, that are created from looping and can even be a combination of both.

(._.) So, uhhh....Spamming, Looping, and Comboing are all different things.

Well, for one thing I say you can't really say it's a loop (being OPINIONATED), so actually that what I feel that no, compared to other games like Marvel vs Capcom (just the loops i'm not comparing the entire game) that you can't really Elsword PROPER looping. I'm fully aware that loops have knockdown systems, but that's not what i'm getting at the fact of the matter is the system RUINS the loop when a loop should be infinite basically, but obviously the knock down system in a game like this needs to be added.


P.S. When you said: " but you mean to tell me that ZZ isn't a loop? Then would it be spamming? That makes no sense, because then most loops all have knockdown systems"

For one again, I didn't say it technically WASN'T a loop I just gave my opinion on how it doesn't seem like one to me when i've actually seen real loops, and what do you even mean by "Then would it be spamming" cause of my opiniated theory on the first it wasn't some fact, cause obviously in my words I knew there was some truth that in the end that ZZ is still a loop and then I said, "Although, it CAN'T be called spam" so obviously I understand that loops and spam aren't the same, so what are you even talking about here?

Also, why are you telling me the SAME thing when I even told EVERYONE here that there different?

I'm gonna ask where you got these definitions of spam and loop from because they sound opinionated, cause the the definitions I gave were "legit" and if these aren't from a dictionary or anything more reliable then you can't really prove a point here, we can't give people "more" opinions they need answers. Also, for spam you gave this definition- Someone deliberatly using the same skills or items, NOT for the intension of a long combo, but as an advtange.
Ok, the first part is obviously just what I said AGAIN, but the second part is just what? Dude in a game like this you can spam a skill and get mad combos i'm pretty sure people try to get them in such a game in Elsword can every hit you make counts so what are you meaning without intention? That may go for a game that doesn't EVEN HAVE a combo system so, there wouldn't be any point of intention sure. So, in a game like this is for the intention of getting combos and advantage.

Your loop defintion-Someone who uses the same melee moves for a longer combo chain[
You still don't realize that it's an infinite cycle, for one hackers are a prime example of loopers.
Just imagine, if I were to hack and just use Maximum Strike? Obviously with no cool down it's going to be going in an INFIINTE state, so technically is doesn't have to qualify with melee attacks either, true this isn't legit, but a good example, while if I were to use Maximum Strike->Wait for cooldown-->Use it again--->Wait for cooldown now that's SPAM obviously from this you can tell the difference.

Didn't make sense-Repeatingly using melee type attacks, wheter it activates knockdown or not is looping. For one True, using the loop melee attacks would be a loop, but it doesn't activate cool down to begin with so, why say "whether it does or not" and did you and I just say: "Basically, with skills- using it--->Waiting for cooldown--> use it again is spamming, well since you said that that would mean using melee attacks in the same instance would SPAMMMING not a loop, cause if you don't believe me just see what the exact same thing with skills.

ZZ Loop: ZZ--->Cooldown-->ZZ-->Cooldown
Seriously please stick to what you say here especially since you tried to tell me off on this one here, when it seems like the end you decided to slack off on this end of your argument.

Again you say this:(._.) So, uhhh....Spamming, Looping, and Comboing are all different things. [/quote]

It's bad enough you reiterated the same thing 2-3 when i've ALREADY said it basically wasting time, but the main topic was here LOOPING and SPAMMING. COMBOING has nothing to do with this it's very trivial piece of info.

[Mugen]

(._.) I'm sorry, but....I'm not gunna even attempt to read that...sorry, Hope...

tl;dr

[76561198102799856]

Originally posted by Bugendai Ken (Mugen):

(._.) I'm sorry, but....I'm not gunna even attempt to read that...sorry, Hope...

tl;dr

Don't worry I didn't expect you too as always (no offense), due to some of the comments you make on on other discussions when I make things too long (ex. of your comments, Yeah Yeah Yeah! Blah Blah Blah < Which is highly disrespectful actually cause you already know how I like to get all the points of an argument and you should know things might get a little lengthy, and with you just seem to blow it off like my opinion doesn't matter, but you probably won't see my point anyway due to you being one sided on things anyway).

So, just to let you know ill probably just stop commenting on a lot of stuff and this probably isn't just with you either it might be for some others. I respect everyone here and read everything you have to say here, cause your opinions matter, but it's not a big deal anyway if I don't talk you'll just carry on just like normally which is good.

[ddddddfryingpan]

In my opinion, I think a spammer is someone who constantly uses skills as soon as the skills come off their cooldown and they have MP. (I'm guilty of doing that with Reverse Circle sometimes.)

[Mugen]

Originally posted by *~Elite-Status~*:

Originally posted by Bugendai Ken (Mugen):

(._.) I'm sorry, but....I'm not gunna even attempt to read that...sorry, Hope...

tl;dr

Don't worry I didn't expect you too as always (no offense), due to some of the comments you make on on other discussions when I make things too long (ex. of your comments, Yeah Yeah Yeah! Blah Blah Blah < Which is highly disrespectful actually cause you already know how I like to get all the points of an argument and you should know things might get a little lengthy, and with you just seem to blow it off like my opinion doesn't matter, but you probably won't see my point anyway due to you being one sided on things anyway).

So, just to let you know ill probably just stop commenting on a lot of stuff and this probably isn't just with you either it might be for some others. I respect everyone here and read everything you have to say here, cause your opinions matter, but it's not a big deal anyway if I don't talk you'll just carry on just like normally which is good.

(._.) Ouch that hurts...I mean I wanna get one thing heard in an agrument...I don't wanna overkill the "argumentee" and make them feel dumb or what not...it's not like I'm biased or anything either...I don't like proving people wrong so gravely...to the point where they feel bad about themself

Heck, it's not my mission to tell everyone what's right either, but I just wanna through in my opinion into the basket....you know what I'm saying?

But, bro...don't get me wrong....I understand your viewpoint in my arguments too, just try and excuse my....impatience, lol

If anyone has the best insight in things on this thread, it's 100x you over me, bro....

(T~T) So pwease don't goooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....

[76561198102799856]

Originally posted by Bugendai Ken (Mugen):

Originally posted by *~Elite-Status~*:

Don't worry I didn't expect you too as always (no offense), due to some of the comments you make on on other discussions when I make things too long (ex. of your comments, Yeah Yeah Yeah! Blah Blah Blah < Which is highly disrespectful actually cause you already know how I like to get all the points of an argument and you should know things might get a little lengthy, and with you just seem to blow it off like my opinion doesn't matter, but you probably won't see my point anyway due to you being one sided on things anyway).

So, just to let you know ill probably just stop commenting on a lot of stuff and this probably isn't just with you either it might be for some others. I respect everyone here and read everything you have to say here, cause your opinions matter, but it's not a big deal anyway if I don't talk you'll just carry on just like normally which is good.

(._.) Ouch that hurts...I mean I wanna get one thing heard in an agrument...I don't wanna overkill the "argumentee" and make them feel dumb or what not...it's not like I'm biased or anything either...I don't like proving people wrong so gravely...to the point where they feel bad about themself

Heck, it's not my mission to tell everyone what's right either, but I just wanna through in my opinion into the basket....you know what I'm saying?

But, bro...don't get me wrong....I understand your viewpoint in my arguments too, just try and excuse my....impatience, lol

If anyone has the best insight in things on this thread, it's 100x you over me, bro....

(T~T) So pwease don't goooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....

~My lasst post on this discussion~
Well, for one there's no such thing as "Overkill" when it comes to peoples opinions, let's get that straight for a second, when I comment I don't try to "overkill" anyone I listen to respond back Professionally as possible, and probably the fact that you said you don't wanna "Overkill" someone really just tells me you don't wanna do it to certain people, although I could be wrong on the overkill part due to you and Demn arguing back and fourth trying to make "each other" look dumb when the fact remained the both of you looked silly (sorry, but true.) While me I got straight to the point with him, and now he doesn't seem to be seen anywhere, or at least on some other account being silent for once.
P.S. It's fine if you try to make me look dumb, even though you don't try to make the person feel that way. Ironic when it comes to most things being opinionated you can't really make someone look dumb, only when you present "facts" then it's different story.

I don't think that was even an opinion actually, the fact that you just say "My post are too long"
When actually in another discussion you'd told people that there were others who actually did much longer ones which really just shows also, that you only do things to the very brink of halfness and rather it would be fair to say you shouldn't read any of my post from this point on though this is a suggestion obviously cause I obviously can't stop you.

Let's be honest here, can you REALLY understand my point of view we you can't even read HALF of what I even type? I gonna be real with you, i'm not all that patient either not a lot of people can be in this day in age, but the fact is even though I don't like it peoples opinions can be fragile and mean a lot, so I have to suck it up and get down to reading and try understanding THEM also instead of worrying about what I think all the time. That's how discussion and everything work.

"Best" in an opinionated status, mostly here, even though we can present facts is kind of laughable, i'm just another person just giving his opinion and trying to keep things in a calm fashion. The way you see things, and the way I see things are totally different, so there is no "Best insight" I read all your post respectfully and give the best opinion I can.

Also, i'm not "going" anywhere for right now, i'm just not going to post comments as much (probably very little unless it comes to making a discussion due to this.) Trust me it won't hurt anything at all.

P.S. You probably won't read this anyway, so no offense, but I won't really expect much.

[Mugen]

Originally posted by *~Elite-Status~*:

Originally posted by Bugendai Ken (Mugen):

(._.) Ouch that hurts...I mean I wanna get one thing heard in an agrument...I don't wanna overkill the "argumentee" and make them feel dumb or what not...it's not like I'm biased or anything either...I don't like proving people wrong so gravely...to the point where they feel bad about themself

Heck, it's not my mission to tell everyone what's right either, but I just wanna through in my opinion into the basket....you know what I'm saying?

But, bro...don't get me wrong....I understand your viewpoint in my arguments too, just try and excuse my....impatience, lol

If anyone has the best insight in things on this thread, it's 100x you over me, bro....

(T~T) So pwease don't goooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....

~My lasst post on this discussion~
Well, for one there's no such thing as "Overkill" when it comes to peoples opinions, let's get that straight for a second, when I comment I don't try to "overkill" anyone I listen to respond back Professionally as possible, and probably the fact that you said you don't wanna "Overkill" someone really just tells me you don't wanna do it to certain people, although I could be wrong on the overkill part due to you and Demn arguing back and fourth trying to make "each other" look dumb when the fact remained the both of you looked silly (sorry, but true.) While me I got straight to the point with him, and now he doesn't seem to be seen anywhere, or at least on some other account being silent for once.
P.S. It's fine if you try to make me look dumb, even though you don't try to make the person feel that way. Ironic when it comes to most things being opinionated you can't really make someone look dumb, only when you present "facts" then it's different story.

I don't think that was even an opinion actually, the fact that you just say "My post are too long"
When actually in another discussion you'd told people that there were others who actually did much longer ones which really just shows also, that you only do things to the very brink of halfness and rather it would be fair to say you shouldn't read any of my post from this point on though this is a suggestion obviously cause I obviously can't stop you.

Let's be honest here, can you REALLY understand my point of view we you can't even read HALF of what I even type? I gonna be real with you, i'm not all that patient either not a lot of people can be in this day in age, but the fact is even though I don't like it peoples opinions can be fragile and mean a lot, so I have to suck it up and get down to reading and try understanding THEM also instead of worrying about what I think all the time. That's how discussion and everything work.

"Best" in an opinionated status, mostly here, even though we can present facts is kind of laughable, i'm just another person just giving his opinion and trying to keep things in a calm fashion. The way you see things, and the way I see things are totally different, so there is no "Best insight" I read all your post respectfully and give the best opinion I can.

Also, i'm not "going" anywhere for right now, i'm just not going to post comments as much (probably very little unless it comes to making a discussion due to this.) Trust me it won't hurt anything at all.

P.S. You probably won't read this anyway, so no offense, but I won't really expect much.

*AHEM* FOR YOUR INFORMATION: I READ EVERYTHING. (>_<) Just, cuz I said that once...doesn't mean I won't read anything you say! That's stereotypes, maaannggg! FO REAL!!!

Lol, but on a serious note...it's as if you want to get every detail inevery argument. That's what I mean in overkill. And, by adding so much detail, you get a huge essay that SOME PEOPLE feels like reading (I OCASSIONALLY, don't read long comments). You certainly can overkill a reply to an argument. Here is the difference: A couple of sentences or just a paragraph or two VS. 3-5 MEGA paragraphs of (10+ sentences EACH). Also, you don't have to be "professional". No one asks for professional comments to every comment. It doesn't matter who, but overkilling a comment can be directed to anyone, but I never like doing it because: 1.) I don't like typing so much on simple comments, 2.) I don't like wasting time...especially trying to win n argument against people you don't even know on the internet, and 3.) It's not even worth the win. And please don't bring the "Demn Dilemma" back into this. That guy was a "Rank SSS Griefer". I mean, I don't see how I'm included in the...."both of you looked silly", but, I'm sure your right. Telling someone that it's wrong to make fun of autistic people/ autism, cyber bully many players, or say extremely crude and sexual things on this forum: IS SILLY.

Let, me give you an honest opinion about you, Hope. You may think that you go to the main point, but it's quite the opposite. In fact, you elaborate on EVERY inessential detail, that by the time we're half way down the friggen entire page, our eyes are bleeding, lol. Eveything you say is more of fact, then an opinion, Hope. And with that being said, you do indeed tend to have some sort of superioty when you talk to people. I mean I literally gave you my opinion on what the differences between spamming vs. looping, and you say my opinions are WRONG. How can an opinion be wrong? You tell me, because you say that you only give opinions. It's almost like you think your opinions ARE the facts, and that you can't be wrong at any given angle, even though you say, "opinion".

And uh, you just proved my point there. You're saying that I don't read any of your long post, but then you said that I read many other long posts on other threads. So, it's not like I never read any of your posts. Right now, I thoughly read this and I will reply to EVERY detail, like you want. Stop, saying I don't read any of your posts, for the last time. Just because I told you I won't read just ONE of your mega-comments, that doesn't mean I won't read the rest. You didn't even give these prejudice thoughts towards Demn, when he told you that you "try too hard". And don't even get me started on the way you make HUGE QUOTE PYRAMIDS, well most of the time! And then you also said that saying: "Blah blah blah" to an enormous comment like that...then you say I, "do things on the very brink of halfness". Hell, I don't even know that means...but, I feel offended, lol!

Again, you say that I don't read any of your material, when I told you up front, that I didn't read ONE of your comments. I even CLEARLY STATED that: I don't like proving people wrong so severly, I UNDERSTAND your viewpoints in agruments, I told you to please excuse my rude behavior, and even further said that you have better insight then me, A HUNDREDFOLD. What more do you want? Apparently from what your saying: People's opinions can be fragile and mean a lot, but then you turn around and say that I basically talk out of my ass in any discussion. You're also not any regular person, who gives out an opinion, because I don't see anyone typing as much as you do, except for this reply. I mean, you say that you try to keep things in a calm fashion, yet you still insulted me a couple of times, and continued to say that I 'm too lathargic to read a three paragraphs off the internet. In fact, I did that as a joke, and if you don't know by now that I joke QUITE OFTEN, then you really need to realize that I just joke around a lot, and try to not offend people, to purposfully make them feel bad.

Also, stop making yourself look like a hypocrite. You say that "best" is an opinionated status, then you contined to say that there is no "best insight". What I meant by best insight, is that you look at all the possible details to any given discussions, but that could also lead to your downfall because 30% of people even read something that detailed on here, while everyone else reads about a paragraph or less from each comment.

And go ahead, comment as much and as long as you want....I have no problem with that now. I just don't want you to hold back on your commenting, because of me. I just wanted to let you know otherwise,because I really do enjoy reading 3/4 of your material.

P.S. (-_-) Again, with the prejudice response (And you are probably going to continue to use that against me in many future comments to come)....BUT, you're DEFINITELY RIGHT. I don't and never will read the full extents of your comments. But, also...feel free to reply to this post, you don't have to be entitled to not posting on here again. After all, you were the one who openly said that your previous comment would be your last. So...I'll be waiting, now.