Thoughts on LuCiel?

[foxwhistle]

In my opinion, LuCiel is one of the most balanced characters to choose from. With Lu's strong melee attacks to Ciel's not as powerful ranged shots, this adds a dynamic (no pun intended) view on how the elsword community will be playing.

1. Combos: LuCiel's combos are one of the most fluent i've seen in a long time. Some may say that the combos are OP, but i think that the lack of combos to choose from (compared to all other characters) really gives your enemy the upper hand. They most likely will see what combo your using more, and find a way around it.

2. Skills: LuCiel's skills are insanely powerful (mostly towards Lu) and provide enough space to attack your enemies from the right distance, giving your opponents who beats your combo game, a hard time fighting you.

3. Specialty/Special Ability: LuCiel's Switching and Combination ability is the main thing that makes LuCiel, LuCiel. The Switching allows the player to switch between characters, changing the way you play after every combo. This has pros and cons. Pros are that you can confuse your enemy by switching your playstyle, which forces them to switch theirs. Cons are that its a little hard to get used to (in my opinion). Combination is an ability that allows the character that is tagged out, to gain mana rapidly. Because Lu and Ciel dont share mana, it makes sense why this is put into the game, but its a tad broken. The Combination Gauge on the other hand, is just a power up to combination skills (skills that require both Lu and Ciel) such as Soul Infest and Nether Shredder.

Tell me your thoughts on LuCiel, are they OP or balanced? and when both job changes come out, who will you choose, Chiliarch/Dread Lord or Royal Guard/ Noblesse? Leave a comment down below!

[Wardens]

I main DL in KR.

He is OP, i can pull off 200k DMG with Apollyon, i can also kill people bare naked. And 1hitko people with runious.

Only Noblesse is balanced as of now.

Base job weak as ♥♥♥♥.

[Zacaro]

Indeed, I really do like LuCiel and their playstyle. Currently, not even close to being OP. Well, DL is said to be quite OP as of now, but if this is anything like what happened to DE...DL will get nerfed heavily soon.

The best part about LuCiel is that they kind of...complete each other, if you understand what I mean. Even in normal combos you can clearly see it, Lu is slow with her claws but they have a good range, while Ciel is noticably faster but his Gunblades don't really have as much reach, he has to use XXXX in order to actually get some range. I have to say, it was nice of KOG to bring out LuCiel, and try something different. I'm loving the new character! :)

Oh boy, Dreadlord or Noblesse? Both of them dont really lack power, in fact DL is very strong in its later stages. But I really like Noblesse's playstyle, Lu still cutting and slashing away with her claws with more power while Ciel has a blaster with high amounts of damage behind it (have you seen Marbas used in pvp? It's ridiculously powerful, probably gonna get hit by a nerfquake by some point...)

Personally, while I really like both classes so far, I have to choose Noblesse for simply being more appealing to me :)

[foxwhistle]

Originally posted by Zacaro:

Indeed, I really do like LuCiel and their playstyle. Currently, not even close to being OP. Well, DL is said to be quite OP as of now, but if this is anything like what happened to DE...DL will get nerfed heavily soon.

The best part about LuCiel is that they kind of...complete each other, if you understand what I mean. Even in normal combos you can clearly see it, Lu is slow with her claws but they have a good range, while Ciel is noticably faster but his Gunblades don't really have as much reach, he has to use XXXX in order to actually get some range. I have to say, it was nice of KOG to bring out LuCiel, and try something different. I'm loving the new character! :)

Oh boy, Dreadlord or Noblesse? Both of them dont really lack power, in fact DL is very strong in its later stages. But I really like Noblesse's playstyle, Lu still cutting and slashing away with her claws with more power while Ciel has a blaster with high amounts of damage behind it (have you seen Marbas used in pvp? It's ridiculously powerful, probably gonna get hit by a nerfquake by some point...)

Personally, while I really like both classes so far, I have to choose Noblesse for simply being more appealing to me :)

I agree, Noblesse is far more appealing in my opinion. And i just realized something, C/DL is focusing on Lu's Combos and Ciel's Skills while RG/N is focusing on Ciel's Combos and Lu's Skills. Just a little tip for people who main Lu or Ciel.

[mf2k]

luciel is so op
my reasons are that
1.) there 2 characters
2.) the combos are one of the most op i ever see ( forever looping )
3.) both of them can jump 2 times and the jumps can cause damage
4.) and u can hit them when luciel is switching and when there do a skill ( so that means a free open almost every time u try to get a hit )
5.) and it would of been better if luciel was not together ( all ready op by them self)

[Uncreative Name]

Originally posted by mf2k:

luciel is so op
my reasons are that
1.) there 2 characters
2.) the combos are one of the most op i ever see ( super spam )
3.) both of them can jump 2 times and the jumps can cause damage
4.) and u can hit them when luciel is switching and when there do a skill ( so that means a free open almost every time u try to get a hit )
5.) and it would of been better if luciel was not together ( all ready op by them self)

They are two characters, they have seperate Mana, but HP remains the same, so swapping won't save the users life.

The rest of your statements don't make sense what-so-ever, specifically because you don't provide well thought out examples.

[mf2k]

wow now i know that luciel have 2 mana and thats another reason why luciel is op

ps the reason why some people don t fine luciel op because the person sucks with luciel or the person dont realize how easy it is to use luciel

[Uncreative Name]

Originally posted by mf2k:

wow now i know that luciel have 2 mana and thats another reason why luciel is op

ps the reason why some people don t fine luciel op because the person sucks with luciel or the person dont realize how easy it is to use luciel

They're not OP. I'm guessing you missed out on the fact that there was literally an event for Lu/Ciel to get a +10 weapon for reaching specific levels.

Are you calling them Over-Powered because they keep beating you?

[Hawkstein]

Dunno about Noblesse. But Dreadlord is heavily destroyed by any sort of Raven and Infinity Sword. Seems balanced, I guess.

[Keinn]

the character has a ton of mechanics and combos to learn. In pvp the char. is balanced (compared to the rest). And most important, its fun

[Keinn]

Originally posted by mf2k:

luciel is so op
my reasons are that
1.) there 2 characters
2.) the combos are one of the most op i ever see ( forever looping )
3.) both of them can jump 2 times and the jumps can cause damage
4.) and u can hit them when luciel is switching and when there do a skill ( so that means a free open almost every time u try to get a hit )
5.) and it would of been better if luciel was not together ( all ready op by them self)

Git
Gud
Skrub

[mf2k]

ok just rember its just my thoughts on lucliel, i dont care what other people think, i am not try to start a fight with anyone , and by i think the reason why people are saying lucliel because they dont want lucliel to get nerf

[Hawkstein]

Originally posted by mf2k:

ok just rember its just my thoughts on lucliel, i dont care what other people think, i am not try to start a fight with anyone , and by i think the reason why people are saying lucliel because they dont want lucliel to get nerf

More like that or maybe because of Lu's lolicon fanservice.

[Uncreative Name]

Originally posted by mf2k:

ok just rember its just my thoughts on lucliel, i dont care what other people think, i am not try to start a fight with anyone , and by i think the reason why people are saying lucliel because they dont want lucliel to get nerf

I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ if they get nerfed, but the problem is you're saying they are "Over-powered" without giving any reason why they are "Over-powered."
Of course, what do I expect, everyone calls anything new "OP."

[mf2k]

man u reply fast, but anyway i did gives my reasons also i still think not know if lucile is op but u have not given any reasons why lucilel is not op, your just saying that luciel is balanced and i dont suck at the game i got skills

[Hawkstein]

Originally posted by mf2k:

man u reply fast, but anyway i did gives my reasons also i still think not know if lucile is op but u have not given any reasons why lucilel is not op, your just saying that luciel is balanced

In my opinion, Lu Ciel is heavily countered by characters/jobs that are the least used. It's an awesome balance to be honest, but people call them OP just because they refuse to use those less used chars/jobs.

It's like Pokemon XY during its release. People in the metagame blindly said that Fairy-types were OP because no one counters them and the ones who countered were only neverused types such as Steel and Poison. They didn't realise that the solution was before their eyes: they just needed to start using Poison-types and Steel-types. (aside of the mega-evos banning issue, this was the secondary reason why Smogon's meta fell from grace)